Case Keenum milestone

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Not bad for a “system quarterback”. :wink:

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I was thinking about this. Why aren’t the OU QBs not considered “system QBs” by now? Mayfield and Murray and now Hurts? Klingler was discounted when he posted big numbers in the UH system when it was concluded that it was only because of the “system”

Anyway, congrats to Case! I thought he would hold a clipboard and wear a baseball cap for most of his NFL career. This is why I will keep my day job.

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I think the NFL was forced to drop the silly marginalizing label due to nearly every college team running more spread concepts than pro-style. Even coaches like Fisher and Miles have playbooks loaded with spread concepts. It’s just part of the evolution of football. If teams want to continue to recruit the state of Texas, they will have to coach something these guys are familiar with (spread offense).

What’s ironic is that the NFL was just throwing around the label “system QB”; now they reference every NFL coach as having their own system to individualize them, when in actuality, the NFL hasn’t been doing anything ground breaking in years. That’s why you see so many spread offense coaches getting jobs in the NFL in some capacity; it’s because the “pro-style” has gotten boring.

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Both Andre and David were either injured or had a Coach again them (Fontes)
Why not about ou?
P5 vs G5. This is as simple as that.

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What’s bad is they still call Keenum a system QB and essentially Mayfield and Murray ran the same type of system at OU that Keenum had at UH.
I wish someone would call them out on that on the air.

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Nah, it’s more than that. It’s a new school/old school thing - until the last few years, the NFL hasn’t had many “spread” teams, and college football has been ruled by the “pro style” offense crowd. Things have changed.

Still, the “old school” crowd will bring it up and say that it’s “not real football” and has only been made possible by rule changes that offer more protection for QBs and WRs. And there’s still a strong preference for the “prototypical NFL QB” over others who have proven that success speaks for itself.

There was a segment where Rex Ryan was adamant when commenting on his thoughts of Kingsbury’s future success. He used those exact words “not real football”. I’m not 100% sure but I think he also used “cutesy”. lol I thought it was hilarious and Ryan sounded like a jealous old dude. It’s football. If it works, it works. If it doesn’t… :man_shrugging: One particular style does not guarantee success or failure.

Isn’t the Veer a system? West Coast offense a system? They are all systems unless you’re just calling plays like you do in a park.

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When NFL talking heads use the word “system”, its a negative connotation suggesting that QBs can only succeed in the same system that they were in; hence, their hesitation to pull the trigger when drafting those guys. But what truly separates the NFL and college, has to be the way calls get to QB. Everything else is nearly the same nowadays.

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I thought the same thing when Robert Griffin won the heisman in the exact system that Case ran and also when Manziel was getting all of his hype.

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Administrators & Case,

I apologize for sidetracking this thread with my “system QB” comment. It was unintentional and I will try to stay on topic in the future.

Go Case Go!

CougarDave

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159th all time!

141 David Garrard 16,003 2002-2010 jax
142 Scott Mitchell 15,692 1991-2001 4TM
143 Ed Brown 15,600 1954-1965 3TM
144 Mark Sanchez 15,357 2009-2018 4TM
145 Erik Kramer 15,337 1987-1999 4TM
146 Tony Banks 15,315 1996-2005 4TM
147 Jameis Winston 14,822 2015-2019 tam
148 Kordell Stewart 14,746 1995-2005 3TM
149 Doug Flutie 14,715 1986-2005 4TM
150 Joey Harrington 14,693 2002-2007 3TM
151 Sid Luckman+ 14,686 1939-1950 chi
152 David Carr 14,452 2002-2012 4TM
153 Bubby Brister 14,445 1986-2000 5TM
154 Marc Wilson 14,391 1980-1990 2TM
155 Bill Nelsen 14,165 1963-1972 2TM
156 Josh Freeman 13,873 2009-2015 3TM
157 Gary Danielson 13,764 1976-1988 2TM
158 Eddie LeBaron 13,399 1952-1963 2TM
159
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Eddie Lebaron, you better watch out, Case is gunning for you!

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Already passed Magic Man? Impressive…

He should be in the 130’s by season’s end. Every week he has a chance to move over someone. Pretty cool to track! This gets updated weekly.

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Conform to the longstanding Keenum thread please. This is a system thread.

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Yeah! This thread needs to be merged! Our Keenum thread is awesome, maybe we can get him to post on it one day.

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That would include moving ahead of players like Doug Flutie and Kordell Stewart.

Case has put together an impressive career in spite of all the odds stacked against him. One of the announcers discussed a comment from an Eagles coach last week – said that Case became starter with at least four teams where he was projected to be backup. That he was impressed that this guy came in and played hard enough and smart enough to change the minds of four different head coaches, to start him.

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Don’t worry about it, not many threads manage to stay on topic.

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