2022 Case Keenum Thread - Houston Texans back home where he belongs

Case can’t do it by himself. Once again he has a crap team surrounding him in the pros.

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What will piss me off to high heaven is if he is let go and then they decide to revamp the offensive line etc. and the team does very well next year and they blame it all on Case just like how they did in Los Angeles. They finally got a new head coach/offensive coordinators/offensive line/etc. and say that their success is because they got rid of Case and got a real QB.

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That is the common denominator with the N.F.L. You have a ton of Coaches/Executives that have no business making decision at this level. The other common denominator is that you have Coaches that want to impose their will. So instead of utilizing their players best strengths they waste these same players. More often than not defenses outsmart offenses. Having a Coach stuck in an 80s/90’s offense/defense is a major issue.
For all of the naysayers Case’s past season is not a fluke. A game might have been but an entire season? You need a ton of luck to succeed in the N.F.L.Let’s all hope that Case will be given a better “cast” to utilize his full potential.

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VERY well said!!

Seriously why would you give the starting QB title to anyone without surrounding him with the best possible way(s) to succeed?
Money does not mean anything in the N.F.L.
Personal success does not mean anything in the N.F.L.
Let’s take Case out of this. Now let’s ask John Elway the following questions:
Is Musgrave the best you could come up with?
Did the Broncos brass analyzed why Case/Goff were so unproductive with the Rams & so much more with the newly Coached Rams & Vikings?
Is player/Coaching staff evaluation that bad in Denver?
These are fair questions. The Broncos are 6-8. They are not 3-13. There is a huge difference there.

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As Koh points out, when there are three receivers on the field, depending on the running back behind Case Keenum, the defense can guess what will happen next with a high rate of success.

Nearly three-quarters of the time, the Broncos will pass the ball with Freeman in the backfield and three receivers outside. But, much closer to half the time, Denver will run the ball if rookie sensation Phillip Lindsay is in the backfield with three wideouts deployed.

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Thank the good Lord that someone in the media has finally said what we have said all year. Hopefully this gets to Elway and he makes a move and this media hit takes the blame off Case.

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I know he will pick himself up but he looked crushed in the presser after the game.

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I would think Elway knows at least as much as the average fan on this board. Case will be back next year and how he does next year will determine how much longer he stays or if he stays. How he does will depend greatly on how the Elway does in the draft and in trading. He knows he has a poor OL and needs some help in the receiving corp and on defense in general.

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Elway was a good QB if he can’t see what this offense and OL is doing for Case then Case has no Case in his favor.

I would think that too but the history of how Case has been treated makes me weary. I agree though, it should be a no brainer that he gets another year with the poor offensive line and the loss of all the wide receivers around him. I just hope they make the necessary adjustments so he can prove himself next year and earn a long-term contract.

Biggest positive for Case sticking in Denver for another year will be the cap hit the Broncos take if they let him go. He’ll count as $10M against their cap if they release him ($21M if they keep him).

Can Denver find a replacement that will help them more than Case for less money? Doubtful, and they don’t really have a QB in the wings that they have ready to take over. My guess is they draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd round and then let Case play another year.

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Hell of a competitor. How can you not want to play the game with Case.
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The Broncos are simply not very good. The outstanding defense is just average, the good offensive line is below average, they have no veteran WR’s. Lindsey is the only bright spot.

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I do feel that the Broncos have way more talent than what the media thinks. This is a Coaching issue.
The stat that is glaring is the fact that a so called make shift OL played well to very well for two games. The same can be said with the running game. Then all of sudden the amazing 49ers & the ferocious Browns annihilate them two games in a row. I do understand of the NFL’s parity but another stat that does not lie is the offense play calling. No one can be productive in this environment.

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Completely agree. Hopefully the right changes can be made and they can make the playoffs next year.

How can the Broncos have a coaching problem? Elway is the GM and he knows as much about football as anyone. Beyond the Xs and Os, however, there are intangibles that are sometimes
hard to measure like: Does this coach have a sense of how that player is motivated? Does he
have a measure of how that play will influence the opposing defense and set up the next play or series of downs? Sometimes Briles will call a run up the middle when it looks like a complete mistake and in the next series they throw a long bomb in the same situation. The Patriots, Saints and Chargers seem to have the best play callers right now.

It sure is bothering me way more than it should. I hate when bad things happen to good people that deserve better.

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Multiple sources claiming Vance Joseph will be fired.