Expansion Link Dump - September 16th

  • Sporting News’ College Basketball Analyst writes an article rehashing old thought processes regarding Houston.
  • Dallas Morning News had three articles regarding Big 12 expansion today; although 2 of them were from the same Chuck Carlton chat while Tim Cowlishaw also answered questions.
  • K-State AD did a Q&A with the paper and talked expansion…well, mostly deflected talk of expansion.
  • Tech AD talks future scheduling and dropped a line at the end about waiting for expansion before being able to move forward…hmmmmm…
  • OSU blog talks with A&M alum and former 1st round pick, Sammy Davis where the conversation turns to B12 expansion, specifically UH, and both the writer and Davis are in favor of UH to the B12.
  • Cincy had 70+ recruits at the game tonight and the article goes on to talk about how much better Cincy would be if they were in the B12. Similar to our plight.
  • Wichita State update on their possible adding football situation

Big 12 schools already have Houston, they don’t need the Cougars, too
Mike DeCourcy

Regardless of Houston’s current success in football, though, many league members have no apparent motivation to make UH one of them. Any Big 12 aspirant will need votes from eight of the 10 current members to be asked to join. Voting for Houston might be in the best interests of only one (Texas), inconsequential to one (West Virginia) and counterproductive for pretty much everyone else.


Question: As far as Big 12 expansion favorites, is there a real threat to the Houston-Cincinnati duo? Sure sounds like those are the two to beat.

Carlton: If the Big 12 expands, those two look like the front runners at the moment. LGBT and Title IX concerns have hurt BYU’s expansion efforts. Memphis is already out. UConn has struggled in football in recent years. You have the Florida schools and Colorado State and SMU and Air Force and … maybe a push by ESPN could lift BYU, which could change the equation.


Question: So what happens if the Big 12 doesn’t end up expanding this year? Could it be a possibility for the next football offseason as well?

Carlton: If the Big 12 decides not to expand after two years of research, discussion, consultants and interviews, it would be a PR mess and signal that the school presidents really can’t come together on anything. I’m sure the Big 12 would then kick expansion down the road. But what difference would another year make at this point?


Question: Which team from All-Big 12 Expansion Candidate Bowl – Houston or Cincinnati – gets in in expansion?

Cowlishaw: I think Houston is in for sure. I think if they add two teams, Cincinnati is the most likely second candidate. If they go to four, both will be in but I don’t think it goes to Memphis any more. I liked Central Florida, a huge student body whose team has fallen off since it beat Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. I like getting into the Florida market. But I’m not sure there’s much support for that. So really beyond Houston and Cincinnati, it’s kind of a crapshoot.


Collegian Q&A: K-State Athletics Director John Currie

I could make an argument for the Big 12 at 10; I could make an argument for the Big 12 at 14; I could make an argument for the Big 12 at 12; I could make an argument for the Big 12 at 16; I could make about any argument in the world. At the end of the day, I’m not the one that makes the decision, I just implement what’s decided.


Texas Tech adds opponent to 2018 football schedule
Reworking includes adding Lamar, moving Missouri State

The current consideration for Big 12 expansion candidates and future makeup of the league puts Tech in a holding pattern for now.

“The other piece to this is conference expansion,” Hocutt said, “so I don’t plan in the coming months to do much more with this until some of those questions are answered.”


BEYOND BUCKEYE LINES: MIDNIGHT YELLING WITH THE 12TH MAN
http://thebuckeyebattlecry.com/college-football/ohio-state-football/beyond-buckeye-lines.html

As many of you know, I am a big supporter of the University of Houston joining the Big 12. I asked Davis about that and what his thoughts were. He, like myself, is a big supporter of it also. He knows that UH getting in will help keep the Houston talent home, and actually make the Coogs tougher, since kids won’t have to leave home to play big time college football. Davis even mentioned to me that had UH been in a Power 5 when he was in high school, he would have looked at them harder than he did, since he wanted to stay close to home and enable his family to be a part of his student-athlete career.


Big-time college football recruiting in Ohio: Did Cincinnati prove it can change things for Ohio State?

“They still have a chance right now as they are,” Hawkins said, “but if they got to the Big 12 and had the chance to pull big-named guys out of Ohio consistently that normally Ohio State or teams like that would pull, then obviously that would make them even more attractive than they are to me already.”


Football program hangs in the balance of conference change
http://www.thesunflower.com/opinion/article_eee4dcd4-7b67-11e6-aeea-9778937c9f36.html

Bardo has touched on the fact that joining the Football Bowl Subdivsion (FBS), the highest division of college football will be difficult, and conference realignment could help. He has also talked about his willingness to start off in the Football Champion Subdivision (FCS) in football and remain in the MVC as it could be beneficial to the program.

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Thank you for all these links, pray10!

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Montemayor expands on his BYU alternative





No problem, have fun doing them and glad I can pass them along.

So, it looks unlikely the B12 will expand, making them a huge joke of a conference.

And now we need to position ourselves for realignment when the GOR runs out? And maybe in between now and then we join the PAC or ACC?

Thank you very much Patrick. I keep writing it but I believe that none of these writers have a clue of what is going to happen. The small12 has done/is doing one thing right. Their decision is under wrap. That leads me to SPECULATE…I wrote speculate that they are contract negotiation(s) with both Disney and 21st Century Fox. It is, was and has been about media numbers. We have them. We are in Houston.That’s what will get us in.
The PAC12 is looking at Asia for expansion. Last time I checked there is a huge time difference even with the West Coast. This is ludicrous to think that they will glue themselves to watch the PAC12. We are a prime target for every single P5 conference including the PAC12. At this point I would not be surprised if the PAC12 invites us. Heck, we can all speculate right?

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I just can’t get past one thought, we may have just played both us and UC out of the B12. I mean really, what fits better in the Big 12, offense that scores 16 points, or defense that scores 16 points?

I am pretty sure the answer is neither.

Don’t forget, the Houston Rockets are the most-watched NBA team in China. Might make it easier to get the Pac 12 in the door in China if another red Houston team is coming.

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Someone call Yao and get him to sell UH to the PAC12. I want west cost road games! I loved going to the game at UCLA. Except for that final score

Anybody read Tim Montemayor’s tweets? Is that guy legit?

Some interesting stuff there.

Edit: I should clarify. not the above ones, the newer ones about Texas’ evil plans for a superconference without OU

What’s wrong with these:

“UH & UC is D.O.A” UH & UConn is D.O.A"

Do you mean besides the poor grammar in using “is” instead of "are?

China is 13 hours ahead of us…just imagine having a 6AM kickoff for UH vs Cal in Beijing!

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Actually, I am pretty sure that “is” is appropriate. When you speak of 2 things as an singular entity, as they would be as expainsion partners in his context, they become a singular pair.

“Hand me those shoes” is okay while “Hand me those pair of shoes” is not; because noting them as a singular entity (a pair of shoes or a pair of teams) means they should be spoken about as a singular entity.

If any of that is true (unlikely), Boren seems content on going down with the ship over practically nothing. If the TX schools to the PAC has legs, I hope he has his story straight to explain to IA. State, WVU, KSU, etc. why he chose to bankrupt their athletic programs.

One team was going to win and another lose. How would either of us played our way out of the B12?
If its not UH/BYU or UH/UC what other combo moves the needle outside of BYU/UC?
If it came down to BYU/UC, Houston would still be OK as another conference has seen/is seeing that a strong Houston brings eyeballs and access to Texas/Houston recruiting grounds.

Clearly you didn’t get the joke…
B12 is all offense, 16 points scored doesn’t fit.
B12 is no defense, 16 points scored doesn’t fit.

West
Wash
Wash St
OR
OR St
Stan
Cal
UCLA
USC
AZ

Southwest
UT
TT
Bay
TCU
UH
CU
Utah
BYU
AZ St

OR

Amerian
USC
Cal
CO
Bay
UH
Wash
OR St
AZ
Utah

National
UCLA
Stan
UT
TCU
TT
Wash St
OR
AZ State
BYU

I’m liking this.

#pipedream

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Pete Thamel out with another B12 expansion piece:

"The Big 12 adds Cincinnati and Houston: 60%

It has gotten so sideways for the Big 12 that the key tenet driving expansion decisions could be what will yield the least embarrassing press conference. Could Boren get trotted out in front of the media and explain not taking Houston? Likely not. Especially a few weeks after the Cougars pounded the Sooners, sold out NRG Stadium and did a remarkable 12.8 television rating in Houston."

http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-expansion-status-houston-cincinnati-byu-uconn-david-boren-2006279271.html

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Pacific
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford
USC
UCLA

Aka, the original Pac-8

Southwest
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
Colorado State
Utah
Texas
Texas A&M
Houston

Now that’s a pipe dream!

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