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You don’t often see a major shakeup of world powers in your lifetime but after our pull out in Afghanistan, no one will trust us again. Taiwan has to be piddling down both legs right about now.

Everyone knows what happens next to the women and girls of Afghanistan. We told them (and innocent people around the world) that we will drop you in the grease.

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Sad sad sad.

Two decades, countless lives lost, injuries mentally and physically, billions of dollars spent and much more including weapons and technology. And these guys just walk right back in without confrontation?

In the great book “Horse Soldiers” which became the movie “12 Strong”. Afghans switch sides continually. When the Americans started leaving, the allied troops just switched to the Taliban.

Bottom line, this lies on the fact that Pakistan harbored the Taliban while we give those azzhats money. How stupid is that? We could never defeat them with a safe harbor across the border. Just stupid

The lesson from Vietnam was don’t go in unless you plan on staying forever. Hell we are still in Korea, Germany and Japan. If you turn tail and run bad things happen. Once you are in you have to stay in.

Afghanistan is a world power? Who cares? Let me put it this way. No way anyone is going to terrorize the US after what we showed we could do to Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran couldn’t defeat Iraq in an 8 year war, we did it in 2 weeks. If we didn’t have morals, we could have done it in 2 days. Everyone took notice. Even China changed their tactics after what they saw the US military is capable of. This is just news fodder for another week, then we’ll move on to the next.

I don’t think so. The Taliban think soccer stadiums are for their favorite past time, head lopping. That is their national sport.

They are going to execute the women and girls we educated all because they learned algebra.

We will get a steady stream of youtube videos of that.

We should never have abandoned these people to the Taliban.

The Taliban are animals.

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This is interesting

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2021/08/17/hayman-capitals-kyle-bass-on-the-geopolitical-fallout-from-fall-of-afghanistan.html?&qsearchterm=kyle%20bass

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You think they want a male only society ? I would say there will be mostly rape and something
more akin to what we would call enslavement. But sure, they will have some public executions of women to maintain control thru fear and submission. Sad, very much so. The world is full of guys we here can agree are bad. It is their culture.

I think Norb has it mostly right.

We should never have abandoned these people to the Taliban

There are many more no win opportunities out there in the future.
Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia one day, Libya, Syria, etc…heck the whole middle east practically.
Not even the US can waste its treasures everywhere for all time. Pick and choose.

The Taliban are animals.

And they think we are foreign invading infidels.

Good overview of situation in that video, that I think is mostly
correct IMHO. China will go in to fill power void and go after the mineral resources and basically leave
Taliban in control and acknowledge them as the government. They will have a mutually
desired symbiotic relationship.

That kind of horror happens in a lot of countries. Are we going to invade them because of it? lol. You guys are so easily swayed by your media masters.

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Not to mention all the countries in Africa, other places in Asia where we ignore genocide, sex slavery, etc.

We were already there. Once you are in, you have to stay in. You can’t just abandon people to their fate when they helped you. This is a national embarrassment.

Yeah I get it that we can’t fix the entire world. But we don’t let innocent people fall into the hands of those animals and take the stance “sorry you are no longer a part of our strategic interests”.

America doesn’t do that. Or at least it shouldn’t.

What would you think about taking in more refugees from Afghanistan? Help save the people that way. That wouldn’t get any Americans killed, cost less, and clearly save lives.

I would say hell yeah bring them on. Absolutely bring on more refugees.

Your mind is closed. You think we should subject our soldiers to unnecessary risk and injury, our treasury deficit spending for a people and culture that will never change. Smell the coffee brah.

Coach that ship sailed 2001. Once you are in you are in. I know we were full of 9/11 revenge and patriotism but the decision to go in is a final decision and you can’t leave for a helluva long time.

Four different presidents made mistakes. The Taliban are not Afghanis, they have no concept of an Afghanistan nation. They are tribal.

Its like we abandoned the american west to the Cherokee and Apache.

On a side note if Cherokee want Austin back, I am ok with that.

None of them have a concept of an Afghan nation.

We would have lost to the Comanches if they had a country like Pakistan to run to and hide out in.

We do that all the time, it’s the cynical real politick everyone deals with. It was time to go, if you can’t get something on firm footing in 20 years you never will. The undermining corruption was endemic and never ending, officers were stealing soldier pay, selling their food supplies and weapons many times to the Taliban. A desertion rate of 5k a month. This was inevitable and the only thing that would be different are more dead American kids for the graveyard of empires. Could this be done much better? Absolutely. Should we take was many refugees as we can especially those who helped us and any and all women and girls? You bet.

Hindsight should Biden have declared the Doha deal stuck by the previous admin bad and arrange a better deal instead of honoring that deal… Again yes. But what’s done is done now rip the band aid off and politically do your best to memory hole it. But if the Gravy Seals, Meal Team Six, and other cosplaytriots are so mad they are welcome to go relieve our boys out there and repel the Taliban.

Edit: Seen this everywhere, all my social media medical experts have all of the sudden turned into brilliant geopolitical and military strategists.

We spent 20 years or so in Afghanistan and Irak.
We spent over $2T’s going on to $6.5T’s by 2050
“How much did the Afghanistan war cost the US?
PAYING FOR A WAR ON CREDIT:
Estimated amount of direct Afghanistan and Iraq war costs that the United States has debt-financed as of 2020: $2 trillion . Estimated interest costs by 2050: Up to $6.5 trillion.”
In just a few weeks the taliban is regaining control. Our Afghan embassy is quickly turning into another Benghazi. You bet history repeats itself when inept commanders are in charge.

This clearly shows how inept our military leaders have been.
We kept reading/hearing that we were teaching the Afghanis how do defend themselves.
We kept hearing/reading that we were teaching the Afghanis what liberty and freedom means.
We kept hearing/reading that the Afghan population was now capable of defending themselves.
In just a few weeks the taliban regained control.
How inept are our military leaders or more importantly how inept are our politician military leaders?
The soviets spent 20 years in Afghanistan before we did. d.c. thought we will change Afghanistan and bring them liberty. How naive, stupid can these politicians be? There is no word to express their ineptitude.

Without any doubts it shows how politically gangrened our military has become.
Without any doubts it shows how many in d.c. made $100M’s on the back and lives of American heroes.

d.c. has became such a cesspool that they no longer even deny it. They keep spending $T’s thinking that they can print money as they see fit. While at the same time these same d.c. politicians are being bought by the ccp. Yes even “mad dog” genreal mathis is consulting with a chinese firm.

Generals Eisenhower, Patton, Schwarzkopf must be appalled by our d.c. leadership. Bush senior had it right when he ordered the armed services to stop after Kuwait was liberated. Bush Junior listened to the d.c. swamped, so did obama and this is exactly where we are today. These same dirty/cesspool politicians could care less about about veterans and all of the ones that served. The clear objective was to get rich as much as they could. General Schwarzkopf a true hero said it best. “I am retiring” He knew that Halliburton and others were knocking on his door. d.c. dirty politicians have no party affiliations. Everyone knows in d.c. who diane feinstein is married to:

This lot has been exposed. The d.c. dirty politicians getting rich on your back and my back. This tragedy because it is a tragedy defies any common sense. Because one administration does not like the previous one you decide to ignore a planned strategy? Facts speaks for themselves. The most concerning fact is that there are still thousands of US troops on the ground all over Afghanistan. This is Benghazi multiplied by an infinite number. By all accounts over 90k’s Afghanis helped us. What will happen to them now? Think about all of the translators that were there to help us? They were told that they would be coming to America.

Think about the hundreds of thousands that have served in Iraq and Afghanistan, given their lives or maimed/injured for life? There is only one place to blame. The d.c. dirty politicians. Both parties are to blame. They were elected to protect and serve America. Instead they took/are taking the money to jeopardize our entire future.

We are the greatest country in the world. We have no excuse to have these people in charge.