Sadly I think the 2014 team would win by a td
Agree. The 2014 team was 6-2 I believe once we switched to ward.
Technically that 2014 team , Apart from Greenberry and a Okorn , went on to win the peach bowl in 2015.
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And I think people forget how truly great that 2014 defense was. The were rated the 11th best scoring defense in the nation giving up only 19.5 points per game.
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Hypothetical A team vs B team battles are stupid because theyāll never play and you canāt argue something that canāt ever happen.
2014 was prime jackboyz yearsā¦the turnover margin was ridiculous ā¦2017 is turnover prone
also would include sacking machines bowser and taylor
greenberry, ambles > current cb
2014 by atleast 2tds, if ward startsā¦that includes the defensive tds
āSacking machinesā Bowser and Taylor combined for 7 sacks total in 13 games in 2014. The 2014 team also threw more INTs than 2017, even if you want to make it a āper gameā stat rather than a cumulative stat.
Even by your low standards this is a pretty bad take.
It depends on which team from each year showed up. Both were terribly inconsistent and could
beat or lose to anyone on their schedule.
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This is the right answer.
lets point out 2 very clear things i aidā¦and pay attentionā¦āwith ward as qbā (who didnt turn the ball over much)ā¦āturnover proneā (that includes fumbles)
āSacking machinesā Bowser and Taylor ā¦they were not in sack based defenseā¦to pill up huge numbers of sacksā¦but they were still able to pressure the qbā¦the difference could be seen when they switched defenses
Even by your low standards this is a pretty bad rebutalā¦you ignored key parts of my response and defined it by whatever you wanted
i said after ward had taken overā¦despite what anyone might think, the team after ward had taken over was pretty good. applewhite himself said anyone could have taken over the 2015 team and won 10 games
and im saying this in a ālikelyā outcomeā¦not a crazy game, if you watched the tulane game, wards ints in that game were āluckā for tulaneā¦ambles ran the wrong route in one, another the WR tipped it to the defender. and despite that ward still had us 3 yards from winningā¦ ward had 4ints all his sophmore year, 3 were in that game, in 9 games
so if crazy stuff happened 2017 would win, but talking the standard game, with ward as qb im taking 2014, and its not that close
Well, Ward starting would not matter if the coach did not let him run. Do these teams include
their coaches or the present staff?
Greg Ward threw a pick every 37.6 attempts, DāEriq King threw one every 69.5 attempts.
Also I have no idea what a āsack based defenseā is. Thatās like calling an offense a ātouchdown based offenseā in that it is a ridiculous, non-existent thing that anyone who knows football would laugh at you for suggesting exists.
Honestly, I didnāt think youād top yourself after calling the Hoops team the 10th best team in the AACā¦ but you keep doing you.
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I still say the same. You say Tulane was luck but it still happened. All Iām saying is it depends on which team showed up. Both teams were inconsistent. I think itās hard to get a likely result with inconsistent teams. If youāre saying both teams at their best, Iād take 2014ā¦ especially with Ward starting.
"Also I have no idea what a āsack based defenseā is. Thatās like calling an offense a ātouchdown based offenseā in that it is a ridiculous, "
bringing pressure, to the qb. why are you making very simple concepts seem complicated
in 2014 the emphasis was run stopping and turnovers (rarely blitzed)ā¦while in orlando it was about qb pressure
no one would laugh at me, since herman himself said the reason he brought orlando in was his ability to get to the qb
you seem stubborn and just trying make a point and nit picking details to say you are rightā¦
i also never said we were the 10th bestā¦ we lost to drexel, i said at this moment we have shown less than 9 teams above us, that id rank us 10th right nowā¦ i noted in EVERY single response that it could change but that at that time comparing everyone we didnt look as good as othersā¦drexel is a 250 rpi team and we hadnt beaten anyone of noteā¦you changed the debateā¦as a matter of fact, you ddnt even read my response in that debate (or so you said)ā¦you literally said im not going to read what you posted
Some people call ānit picking detailsā objectively gathering facts that contradict people like you.
Also saying there were 9 teams better than UH after the team got done playing its 2nd game is insanely dumb my man.
we have preseason rankings made by the coaches, made by media, made by computers, are you calling them dumb?.
my rankings werent a end of the season projections but a at the moment power rankingsā¦which i stated numerous timesā¦and at that time after the drexel loss we deserved to be ranked āat that momentā #10
Yes Iām doing precisely that.