Some sticker shock at the buyout amounts for some bad coaches.
Have known parents who sent their kids there with that plan, but kids liked it so much they stayed and did not transfer. SA much more normal than Austin.
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Consider, however, that the economic and academic activity at Georgia Tech attracts students and commerce to the Atlanta area from across the globe â Atlantaâs tech scene is steadily growing, and GT is at the heart of that. Thatâs a much better return on your investment than more local engineers, especially since engineers who want to stay in-state are still served by UGA, GSU, and Kennesaw.
Many of the other schools you mentioned also have very substantial populations of out-of-state and international students, particularly in their Engineering departments. Auburn, VT, and Iowa State have higher percentages of out of state students than Georgia Tech. Further, most of those schools arenât really on Georgia Techâs playing field in terms of research output. Their closest real analogues as a genuinely elite engineering school are Purdue, Michigan, UT Austin, and the UCs â two of those (Purdue and Michigan) have higher rates of out-of-state students than GT, and UT Austin and the UC System have the two highest in-state populations in the Union to draw from.
The core of their recruiting problem is that they only offer engineering majors and require all students to take two semesters of calculus. Thatâs exceptionally difficult to manage while youâre playing a sport. Many schools wonât even let you attempt it due to
I am saying exactly what i said⊠This board and its reactions are mild in comparison with Aggie and bonghorn boards, who go crazy when they lose games they are supposed to winâŠ
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âplenty of speculation swirling as to who might be a target for the Mountaineers. One name that was popping up is Liberty coach Hugh FreezeâŠa new eight-year contract through 2030 with Liberty for just under $5 million perâ
'he deals with zero negative publicity about his wrongdoings in the past"
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Anecdotally, West Virginians werenât yet desperate enough to want him anyway.
Would not be surprised to see Prime at Auburn.
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I think heâs smarter than that. Iâm not convinced heâs going to stay at JSU and build but I think he wants a Legacy somewhere and Auburn will fire you as soon as your QB gets hurt.
Iâd be stunned.
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I have no idea where Coach Prime will be next year, but I do know that as a coaching candidate, he is hotter than a firecracker and his value is as high as it ever has been.
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Iâm not convinced that Auburn is as trigger-happy as youâre giving them credit for. They gave Malzahn 8 years until it became apparent he had a ceiling. Chizik had to go 3-9 before he got fired. Their boosters wanted Harsin gone in February but they held onto him until it became apparent that theyâre going to miss a bowl.
Auburn expects, rightly or wrongly, that they should be able to compete for SEC and National Championships. Given that, theyâre fairly lenient with their coaching hires.
I donât remember everything with Chizik, was it just from that disaster season? It was just two years after winning the title. Alabama is really in the heads of Auburn/LSU.
Terry Bowden, Tommy Tuberville, Gene Chizik, and Gus Malzahn all went either undeffeated or played in a national title game. All were fired after their first subsequent losing season except Malzahn who never had a losing season.
Well, that and the fact that the Cam Newton Year was the only time he was above .500 in SEC play.
Auburn has it particularly bad, because their other rival is Georgia.
With an SEC out-of-conference schedule, a losing season for a team that expects to be in the top half of their division is an unmitigated disaster. Most teams get 4 gimme games a year; a losing season means you went 2-6 or worse in conference.
The way the SEC talks about itself, going 2-6 in the conference should be considered bad but not disastrous. I mean itâs practically an NFL conference, right?
But seriously, it goes back to my point that (after the first season or two anyway) you are one bad season away from getting fired regardless of what you have accomplished.
As you say, their expectations are what their expectations are. My advice to a coach with options would be to take a job where their expectations can be more reasonably met. In the case of Harsin I donât think he was going to get a better offer (I thought it was a questionable hire to begin with). Someone like Freeze should absolutely take the job if offered it. Kiffin should stay put. Deion should wait for a better opportunity.
Thatâs a reasonable line of thinking if your career goal is job stability, but if youâre aiming to win National Championships, Auburn is close to the top tier of jobs. Theyâve proven that it can be done there in fairly recent memory.
In the BCS/CFP era, only 14 schools have won titles. If thatâs what you care about, jobs better than Auburn donât come open very often. They naturally come with a short leash, but I think most college football coaches are naturally competitive to the extent that theyâd take that gamble. In short, I think theyâd mostly rather be Matt Rhule than Gary Patterson.
Auburn may be more impatient than UT and their big cigars might be even more toxic.
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