Which government does he imagine can, and how?
Hey listen. The US government couldn’t defeat the Taliban under FOUR different administrations, so I can somewhat understand.
But again…how would YOU go about defeating Hamas?
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Don’t fund Iran for starters.
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I’ll let them speak for themselves. But those voices of IDF soldiers are saying its a unjust, stupid, brutal campaign
They can say what they like.
I’m sure you’ll find plenty of IDF soldiers that will tell a different story.
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Did you listen to their accounts?
In the second video, the guy made a valid point. Because Hamas doesn’t wear uniforms and cannot be distinguished from civilians easily, it creates a lot of potential for innocent deaths.
That’s more on Hamas than Israel.
The girl interviewed after him obviously is a scary fanatic. She certainly shouldn’t be so cavalier about the lives of babies, etc.
As for the first video, that guy still believes this is a “just” war, according to his own words.
I can understand him not wanting to go back after three tours. And I can understand some of his gripes about cutting off humanitarian aid. But only 21% in Israel, according to the poll mentioned therein, think that Israel and a Palestinian state can peacefully co-exist side by side. Those don’t represent good prospects.
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He said as an officer on the ground he can’t be a part of it. That’s not someone who thinks its being prosecuted as a just war. He points out the commanders are talking about ethnic cleansing. Another word for that is Genocide
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Obviously any Commander talking like that is out of line.
But let’s be frank. Gaza’s population increased from about 600K to over 2 million over the course of a few decades.
If that’s a “genocide,” then it’s obviously the LEAST SUCCESSFUL “genocide” in history.
Have lots of civilians died in this war? Certainly. Compare that to the number of civilians that we killed in Japan and Germany during WWII. Hell, we dropped atomic bombs that vaporized tens of thousands of civilians. That could arguably be an atrocity, but not a genocide.
So STOP using that dishonest word/making such a characterization.
As far as war crimes go, a lot depends upon targeting and intent. If civilians are being intentionally targeted and killed, then certainly a war crime has been committed.
But again…because Hamas does not wear uniforms, that can be hard to distinguish.
Doesn’t justify indiscriminate killing, by any means, but certainly makes it tougher.
Consider this. In Afghanistan, suicide bombers were known to dress up in women’s clothes (burqas) and blow themselves up in Mosques.
It can be hard to fight an enemy…when they don’t do anything to openly identify themselves as non-civilians/combatants, and may even disguise themselves as civilians.
When can you do when the enemy decides that it doesn’t want to follow the laws of war, one of which is that you HAVE to fight in a uniform that clearly distinguishes you from the civilian populace?
Poplition growth from the past doesn’t change the goal of ethnic cleansing today. If the plan is to kill off the people, that’s genocide. So its the appropriate term.
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I’ve seen nothing to suggest that that’s the goal.
The goal is to eradicate Hamas…a goal that is made tougher to achieve, and increases civilian casualties, due to the fact that the enemy hides in civilian areas and doesn’t follow the laws of war (one of which, again, is that you have to wear a uniform that identifies you and distinguishes you from friend, foe, and civilians).
Ony the words of a IDF officer talking sbout his superiors.
You did see that
Who may have been quoting a few dudes speaking out of turn and inappropriately, even assuming that that’s what they actually said (which cannot be verified…OBJECTION…HEARSAY…SUSTAINED!!!).
Even assuming that they said that, and that it wasn’t said in a sarcastic or satirical way (there’s a reason hearsay is admissible and considered unreliable; it can’t be examined or cross-examined) that in no way suggests or establishes that that is the official position or goal of the Israeli government or IDF.
We are way off topic again
Egos.
USSC rules that Americans who are victims of overseas terrorism MAY sue the Palestinian authority and PLO in US courts.
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A law school classmate of mine who is Jewish posted this on Facebook.
Comments?
To the anti-semites of the world:
You say we run the banks. You say we control Hollywood. You say we dominate the media. You say we have too much influence, too much power, too much pride. But you never ask how — or why. So, let me tell you.
We were banned from owning land, so we learned to live by our minds. We were blocked from trade guilds and professions, so we became merchants, scholars, doctors, and lawyers.
Our commitment to education didn’t come from privilege — it came from necessity. From exclusion. From survival. When we were barred from universities, we built our own yeshivot. The Torah became our moral anchor. The Talmud, our intellectual training ground. When we were mocked for being “bookish,” we made knowledge our defense. The insult became our armor.
In medieval Europe, Christians were forbidden by the Church to lend money with interest. But kings still needed loans, and someone had to do the collecting. So they turned to the Jews — already despised, already othered. We became moneylenders not by ambition, but by force. Then we were hated for it.
In America, we were shut out of “respectable” jobs. So we went west and helped invent Hollywood — not to brainwash, but to dream. To tell stories. To make magic.
When Ivy League schools capped Jewish admissions, we founded Brandeis. When hospitals wouldn’t hire Jewish doctors, we built Cedars-Sinai. When law firms closed their doors, we opened Skadden and Wachtell. We weren’t trying to dominate — we were just trying to live.
We were expelled from Spain. Massacred in Poland. Hanged in Iran. Lynched in Georgia. Bombed in Germany. And yet, we survived. We learned. We remembered.
In 1948, the world watched as nearly a million Jews were expelled or fled from Arab lands. Their homes, businesses, and synagogues were seized or burned. There were no refugee camps, no UN agencies, no worldwide calls for justice. No “right of return” for the Jews of Baghdad, Aleppo, or Tripoli.
You say we’re tribal. But we tried to integrate. We changed our names. Straightened our curls. Abandoned our faith. But every time we tried to disappear, you reminded us who we were. So, we turned inward. We leaned on each other. We built synagogues when your houses of worship were closed to us. We built hospitals when we weren’t welcomed in yours. We built advocacy groups to defend ourselves when no one else would.
And when no country would have us — we built our own.
Then Came October 7, 2023.
You say you hate Israel because of its policies. Because of land. Because of borders. But on October 7, 2023, Hamas didn’t target soldiers. They didn’t storm checkpoints or military outposts. They raped women. They beheaded babies. They burned families alive. They slaughtered civilians in their homes, bombed shelters, and slaughtered young people at a music festival. It was the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. And as our dead lay unburied, the world didn’t mourn with us — it rallied against us.
College students held “Glory to the Martyrs” signs. Protesters waved swastikas in Sydney. “Gas the Jews” was graffitied in Berlin. Jewish students were barricaded inside libraries in New York. MIT students were blocked from class. At Harvard, they were told to remove their Stars of David for safety. All while our hostages were still bleeding in tunnels.
So, no — this isn’t about borders. You hated us before 1948. Before the State of Israel existed. Before a single border was drawn.
What you hate is that the Jew now has power. A flag. A standing army. A government. A home. You preferred us weak. Wandering. Apologizing. Dependent on your pity or permission to live.
Israel Is Not a Gift. It Is a Necessity.
We didn’t colonize the land — we returned to it. Jews have lived in Jerusalem, Hebron, Safed, and Tiberias for over 3,000 years. We prayed toward Zion for centuries. We spoke Hebrew while the world told us to forget.
We made the desert bloom. We drained swamps, planted forests, revived a lost language. We welcomed Holocaust survivors, Russian refuseniks, and Ethiopian Jews airlifted from famine.
We built a nation while surrounded by enemies, embargoed by the world, and haunted by the ashes of Auschwitz. Israel was not built because of the Holocaust. It was built because of 2,000 years of exile, genocide, and betrayal — and it is the only insurance policy against the next one.
Never Again is not a slogan. It’s the Iron Dome. It’s the F-35. It’s the 18-year-old girl in olive green standing guard so toddlers in Sderot can sleep.
Why the Double Standard?
When Russia invaded Ukraine, the world cried out. Blue and yellow flags adorned every profile. Weapons, refugee aid, solidarity — all rightly offered. But when Hamas burned Israeli children alive, we were told to “de-escalate.” When we defend our cities, we’re called monsters. When we bury our dead, you protest our grief. Why?
Peace Is Possible. We’ve Tried.
You say Jews are foreigners in the Middle East. But the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, and Sudan disagree. The Abraham Accords proved peace isn’t just possible — it’s real.
Israel sends aid to Syrian earthquake victims. Arab doctors and lawmakers serve in the Israeli Knesset.
We seek coexistence. You chant “From the river to the sea.” We chose life. You chant death.
So yes — Israel is strong now. Baruch Hashem. Because a powerless Jew is a dead Jew. And history taught us: no king, no pope, no president will save us.
We don’t want to dominate. We just want to live. Freely. Proudly. Unapologetically.
You don’t have to like us. You don’t have to agree with us. But never again will you decide whether we’re allowed to exist.
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Any response from @Cougardue @Coogcheese @zrf @HCNY ?
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Posting that and then calling us out …Seems like one big strawman argument.
Having disagreement with the Israeli government and the historical treatment of Palestinians is not anti-Semitic.
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