Antisemitism can't be ignored

Worse, he’s a bogot

Fixed it for you and as Law pointed out seems to be getting a literal seat at the GOP table along with Carlson and Kanye

I could care less about either of those people

But with that said, if America simply stops giving so much taxpayer money to Israel then i guarantee you the antisemitism reduces drastically

Latest on Coast Guard , now they are denying
a reversal.

But note the differences in the text that’s been
made.

A similar 2023 document reviewed by ABC News, says “a noose, a swastika, supremacist symbols, Confederate symbols or flags, and anti-Semitic symbols” were categorized as “potential hate incidents.”

The Coast Guard’s document out Thursday says that “divisive or hate symbols and flags are prohibited.”

From this it looks like somebody is promoting
the Confederacy again.

The Dilemma of How to write a policy by trying to appease the anti-woke crowd is at
work here.

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No it won’t.

People who are anti-semitic tend to be that way due to the Jewish part, not the Israeli part. You might lessen the amount of students who are Pro-Palestine, but anti-semitism existed strongly before Israel was founded. Of course everyone knows this, it’s the whole reason behind the holocaust.

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Grok going antisemitic again; France taking action.

Grok has a history of making antisemitic comments. Earlier this year, Musk’s company took down posts from the chatbot that appeared to praise Adolf Hitler after complaints about antisemitic content.

Anti Israel is not antisemitic.

Edit: to clarify, anti Netanyahu policies is not antisemitic.

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Depends on what you mean by Anti-Israel.

If by “Anti-Israel” you mean, “I’m opposed to Israel’s right to exist,” or “Israel has no right to exist,” then yes, it’s anti-Semitic.

If “Anti-Israel” means “Israel is a colony,” “Israel’s existence is illegal or immoral,” or anything to that effect, same deal.

Why?

Because in that case, you’d be denying the same autonomy to the Jewish people that you’d happily support for other groups of people.

Being opposed to Netanyahu’s policies, OTOH, is not necessarily anti-Semitic.

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Would “israel’s right to exist” still hold if African Americans reflected the population?

Or do you mean "Israel-Jews’ right to exist?

Israel is merely a state.

Neither Israel, nor any predominately Jewish state should exist in the Jews’ ancestral homeland, according to many of Israel’s anti-Semitic opponents.

As for “African-Americans,” not sure what you mean.

Israel does have a large community of Jews who were airlifted there from Ethiopia.

“Israel’s right to exist” is often a translation for “Jews’ right to exist in the state of Israel”

I personally, believe that Jews have a 100% right to exist.

The problem is that “Israel” (for which I also believe that the USA doesn’t care who occupies Israel but rather merely cares about establishing an extension of US economic/sociopolitical interest by proxy) is a pawn for the US, and Jews are the control group.

It’s not just about Jews having a mere right to exist.

The question is…

Do the Jews have a right to have their own state in their own ancestral homeland, that is to say, autonomy and self-determination on their own terms?

If the answer is “yes,” then cool.

If the answer is “no,” then NOT cool and anti-Semitic, especially given that Israel’s opponents would recognize similar autonomy and self-determination for countless other non-Jewish groups. But not Jews. That’s what makes such a belief inherently “anti-Semitic.”

You are absolutely wrong in this assumption. The Evangelical right, which in case you can’t guess, has huge sway in government right now, needs Israel in the hands of the Jews to set up Jesus returning.

This is a huge part of the U.S. interest in Israel from the beginning.

One can be a Zionist without being Jewish,plenty of non Jews especially evangelical Christians who are Zionist in belief and believe Jews are entitled to lands in the Holy Land. Plenty of Orthodox, non-Orthodox Jews who oppose Zionism and oppose any claim to land in the Holy Land. So with the logic or argument you proposing people of or the Jewish faith, orthodox and non orthodox who oppose Zionism and entitlement to lands based on some alleged deities promise, are anti-Semitic? Am I interpreting this argument correctly?

Of course you can be Zionist without being Jewish.

I am a Zionist Catholic myself.

Nothing I wrote said otherwise.

My post was about being ANTI-Zionist.

Anti-Israel often means Anti-Zionist.

And that’s a pretty anti-Semitic belief for the reasons I stated.

Are there Jews that oppose Zionism?

Well sure.

But they are a pretty small fringe.

No more than 2% of American Jews according to one study I read.

Hell, there are still about 6000 Jews remaining in Iran. There used to be more than 100K.

Can’t understand why those 6K sick around.

As with anti-Zionist Jews, that minuscule fringe can be dismissed as WAAAAAY outside the mainstream.

And I made NO mention of divine entitlement.

As I said, it’s about Jews being entitled to autonomy and self-determination in their own state in their ancestral homeland.

Anti- Zionists deny Jews that, as do many people that claim to be “anti-Israel,” while allowing the very same thing for countless other groups. But why not for Jews?

As I said, anti-Semitic.

So you acknowledge my point, how fringe they are is open to question ( world jewry 15.8M populace, you say a few thousand since there’s no real census done or political views are surveyed, I am sure for political reason who knows what the real numbers are) just like there are significant legal restrictions around certain kinds of genetic testing and ancestry-DNA kit DNA testing. I wonder why?

Anti-Zionist is not antisemitism

There is nothing wrong with supporting the right to Jew’s existence and autonomy, but that doesn’t mean you have to support the state of Israel.

Being anti-Israel is not antisemitism. Being anti-Jew is antisemitism.

But just as the Palestinian population has been caught in a black hole in history, so have Israeli-Jews where both are used as political pawns.

The USA does not care about Jewish people because Jewish people do not serve US interests… What the USA does care about is Israel, who happened to culturally contain a Jewish population, thus the USA has to play the game of politics.

Again, that’s not what anti-Zionism means.

Anti-Zionism means a denial of or refusal to recognize Israel’s right to exist.

And yes, it’s anti-Semitic because it denies the same rights to autonomy and self-determination to Jews in their own ancestral homeland that the people that hold such beliefs wouldn’t deny to most other groups under the same circumstances. It denies such a right specifically, especially, or chiefly to Jews.

Being anti-Israel is not automatically anti-Semitic PROVIDED that being anti-Israel doesn’t include being anti-Zionist.

But all anti-Zionist beliefs are inherently anti-Semitic for the reasons I said.

The State Department agrees. See bullet point #7 below.

https://www.state.gov/defining-antisemitism/

Also, see bullet point #2 and ask whether your previous post is arguably anti-Semitic as well.

Congress passed a bill incorporating these definitions into the Civil Rights Act very recently, though the Senate sat on it. The bill was bipartisan in support, though it had considerably more opposition from the Dems.

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You can’t force someone to accept that Israel is Jewish ancestral land. There is nothing inherently wrong with being anti-zionist.

There is a problem with being anti-jew, which IS antisemitism. Jewish people have every right to autonomy and self-determination. If they believe that Israel is rightfully theirs, then they have to make that determination through the use of military force.

But as I’ve said above, both Jewish people and Palestinians are black holes in society, where they don’t fit in human history in a linear manner, therefore, both populations get politicized.

Referring to the government to determine the definition of something like antisemitism is leaning towards authoritarianism

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