I’ve shared before, but my personal favorite is the Jack Trice big story.
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Thank you. I thought they did it very well. Not much narration, just letting ISU ppl people speak.
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I also really like the one they did on Bill Snyder. Gives me an opportunity to expand on Farmageddon pre-Dublin. I think most Big 12 fans are aware of Farmageddon, but not much beyond that it is a rivalry. It’s a weird one, and Bill Snyder is a big reason for that.
1)AGE No, not Snyder’s age. The game has been played annually since 1917. It is the oldest and longest continuous rivalry in college football.
2)SIMILARITY ISU leads the all time-series. It was largely an obscure pillow-fight of futility for decades upon decades. ISU and KSU are basically identical universities in just about every way. You name the criteria, they are probably very similar.
3)Modern-era dominace from 1990-2017, in arguably the most formative decades of MODERN college football, Kansas State beat ISU all but four times. Only one of them Billy Snyder was the head coach (his last one).
4)Farmageddon is BORN In a sport where these rivalries tend to have old and obvious beginnings, this one is modern, organic, and hard to pin down. My vote is 2009 at a neutral game in Arrowhead Stadium. The game was competitive seemingly out of nowhere, and ISU lost on a missed extra point.
5)ISU infancy and birth of Farmageddon are related, not entirely by coincidence. 2009 also happened to be the real beginning of the crazy fan support ISU has that you see today. You all have mentioned and recognized it. Before “Farmageddon” was born, our football fanbase was mostly ranging between dormant/non-existent. ISU decided, seemingly out of nowhere, that it wasn’t going to volunteer to be the doormat of the Big 12 anymore, at least in its mind. No one to this day is exactly sure when or why this happened. Some want to believe it was always there, but it wasn’t. At least in tangible ways that people from, say Houston of all places, would take note of. It’s immediately obvious to all that have even a cursory interaction with ISU firsthand.
6)Farmageddon became a perennial battle.
Though KSU won under synder EVERY year from 2009-2017, it was a one possession battle down to the wire every year from 2009-2017 with just one exception. Safe to say, KSU went from being mildly amused to annoyed to threatened and even outright panicked by this from 2009 to present day. The rivalry went from an irrelevant sideshow to one-sided and friendly to bitter hatred, too. KSU fans now admit that it is a rivalry, but they generally downplay the significance of it. But knowledgeable fans on both sides know they play in a small sandbox with limited real estate. It’s existential up here.
6)Campbell turns the tables Despite KState maintaining its success post-Snyder quite well, Campbell gave them a run for their money in his 1st two seasons. In 2018, Snyder’s final game ever, the dam finally broke. ISU had a 17-point 4th quarter comeback to end the Snyder era with a loss. Since that game, ISU is 5-2 against the Wildcats, who again have largely been mostly successful in that time. Countless ISU players in the Campbell-era could have and “should have” been KSU Wildcats, including stars like Breece Hall and Jaylin Noel.
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#5 is pertinent to UH, a dormant/non-existent fan base awakens. We have had good football teams in our past that never garnered sustained support. Could this be the awakening that brings the sleeping giant to life for good. Good job ISU. The potential to do that at UH is there, the resources are in place, the players in the area are abundant, the leadership is in place, both in athletics and the university. We need the fans. There should be SRO at every game, 40K seats in a town of 7 million, and you have 8K students coming so really 30K fans needed.
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If you’re looking for another good one to watch (they are all good) I particularly liked the Weddle with Utah big story.
The “Deep Blue” are the stories on BYU athletes or guys and the Dave Rose one is good, too.
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This a good write up on the farmageddon.
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I think the big 12 has lots of fanbases that are or have been semi dormant. Lots are coming alive right now
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I can’t understand why they chose the Farmageddon game to play overseas. I would be livid at that decision if i was ISU or KSU fan.
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2009 might have been when our former head coach Herman was the OC at ISU.
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I’d be furious if they moved the holy war to Europe.
Wouldn’t be as upset if it was Mexico City or Tongan or Samoan islands
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Personally, I don’t like playing college games overseas. I don’t like the direction of college sports in general. There was a time when it was amateur sports and had other interests rather than just making more money.
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Meet college football’s kingmakers: 21 front-office executives who are revolutionizing how rosters are built. Check out who’s reppin’ the Big 12:
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Remember when UH played Arizona St. in the Coca Cola Bowl in Tokyo, Japan, in 1990? UH won 62-45. David Klingler passed for 716 yards. Those were the days.
I stayed up most of the night to see who won. That said, I am not a fan of international games, especially if UH has to give up a home game.
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Fall Camp Ep 1. 7:35 long, released today
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First and foremost, you should do it for yourselves, obviously.
From a personal standpoint, it’s no secret that I think you people are great fans of the highest quality…and I feel strongly that you deserve to see that place full regularly. It would be nothing but good vibes to see that happen from where I’m sitting.
From a practical bigger picture standpoint, the Big 12 conference as a whole needs that place full, too. I’m on record that I’m a basketball-first guy myself, to which I have no complaints there. But football is still king in the real world, and the importance of UH football being a consistent draw with a gravitational impact cannot be overstated IMO.
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I am 100% a football first guy. (Though I did up my donations $750 for basketball and still didn’t donate enough for basketball tickets)
I love full stadiums for football.
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After one day of camp:
Hillstead played it safe
Bachmeier is turning heads
Bourget didn’t impress
Expected depth chart after one day:
Hillstead
Bachmeier
Bourget
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Ya know, the thing is, I’m definitely a football first guy.
Problem: I’m an alum/fan of a school that appears to be moving more towards being a basketball first school, though hopefully football can catch up.
Ideally, BOTH would be great!
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As long as the BB program is doing as well as they are and the football program is lagging, basketball will garner more of the attention. However, let the football program stat fielding 10 plus winning seasons every year and they will gain the forefront. Caveat: A basketball national championship will be hard for the football program to match.