I hope your Bears are much more hated then Haribo sugarfree bears
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The math had been done several times even if the Big 12 simply won the remainder of their current contract that still earns them in 4 years a lot more money than they would get in the AAC over 12 years
and if they win torturous damages that gets them enough money to have an endowment paying out a great deal of money every year for the life of that endowment
Perfect. Enjoy it!
Now disappear.
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Please someone ban this troll.
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If it was all that clear and certain, why are Big 12 schools considering the AAC?
If it was that clear of a choice, why does the Big 12 need to issue this unprecedented cease and desist letter.
Apparently for the people who are actually in this mess, it is not at all as clear cut of a choice as you appear to believe.
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no one said any Big 12 member was considering the AACâŠwell other than AAC fans that think less money over 12 years is smarter than more money over 4 years because âstabilityâ
and they issued the letter because that is what happens when you fell you are aggrieved
apparently they do think it is clear cutâŠthat is why they issued the letterâŠ
I donât think ESPN is trying to lure Big 12 teams to the AAC with your sales pitch.
They likely have different numbers than yours to pitch to them.
Considering theyâre in this business, Iâll put my money on ESPNâs numbers over yours.
And itâs because ESPN might succeed that theyâve issued a letter threatening suit.
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I can only speak for myself, and all I have said is that, in my opinion, ESPN may have created a legal liability for itself. Whether it results in a lawsuit or not is anyoneâs guess, but I can see why someone in their position might consider it. I have no love for Baylor either. Watching them squirm is poetic justice as far as Iâm concerned, even though most of the people responsible for screwing us over are probably dead. Iâm a college football fan, so I admit I am petty and irrational like that.
But, I suspect Bowlsby wrote the letter precisely BECAUSE some of them may be (or may have been) considering accepting whatever ESPN is offering. And the reason they would consider accepting the proposal is precisely because they are being coerced by ESPN, which was my original point. Whether you like ESPN is doing or not, the legal argument can still be made that they are interfering in a tortious manner. Asking a lawyer if you should sue for a tort is like asking a dog if it wants a treat. When you say the B12 isnât powerful enough to take on ESPN, you make my point for me. If ESPN is trying to collapse the B12, then the member schools are either compelled to take whatever ESPN offers or to face the fact that they wonât have a conference. Is it wise to sue? I have no idea. Could they win? Absolutely, provided the facts are correct as I understand them. At this point, they might be angry enough to sue just to get sworn depositions from the presidents of UT and OU, and I would be lying if I said I wouldnât enjoy that.
The commissioner represents the league, not the individual schools, and if a few schools are being approached to get them to leave, itâs his job to try to stop that from happening, especially if there is real danger of the league collapsing. If there is no danger of schools leaving, the letter would be counterproductive. So I donât necessarily think that Bowlsby writing a letter is evidence that all the schools in the league are in solidarity. He is merely representing the league as a legal entity, which exists until it dissolves whether there are 10 members or 1. He basically has to.
I gather based on some of the replies that Person is a Baylor fan. Frankly, I agree with Person on some things, disagree on others, but I certainly donât think anything unreasonable has been said, at least not in this thread. I have no problem with guests participating and sharing opinions respectfully.
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The XII would have to win a lot of money to create any sort of substantial self-sustaining conference-wide endowment fund, especially one that would off-set the damage that theyâve done to their business relationship with ESPN by making this accusation. Iâm not a lawyer, but unless the XII has the kind of clear, slam-dunk evidence that ESPN would have to be comprised exclusively of morons to generate, that seems unlikely.
Nobody on the message boards knows all the facts to assess a legal cause of action. Those arguing tortious interference with a contract (TIC) are likely motivated by in the moment anger and frustration. Not surprisingly Iâm seeing this on the Baylor board. They feel robbed, cheated and the victim of illegality.
TIC however is a high threshold with several well defined elements. Itâs unlikely what is happening here. This is more likely hardball negations and strong arming from a party with more leverage than another (ESPN). Thatâs legal, ethical and done all the time. One Party ie Big12 conference or an individual member may sue for breach of contract but chances of prevailing with a TIC claim are very low.
In the end, I expect the parties will simply make the best business decision they can instead of a legal decision.
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Baylor is just looking for a handout. The two teams that kept them afloat are now off to the SEC. Their best course of action is a temper tantrum.
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ESPN is not interfering if they field a call and discuss what a new landscape looks like.
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Thanks for providing a more informed opinion. Of course nobody knows all the facts. I am just genuinely curious about the legal aspects for the sake of curiosity. This is a pretty complicated situation to unpack, since it involves 3 conferences, numerous individual schools with different agendas and a media network that has contracts with all those conferences. Fascinating and bizarre to watch this play out.
We should invite WVU, KU, ISU, OKS, TT. The two private schools can to the MWC.
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Just say NO to Baylor.
That will right the wrong that Bullock and his cronies did to us back in the 90s.
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This is where Iâm at. TCU and Baylor add nothing.
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Truer words have never been spoken.
TCU & Baylor will love @ Wyoming in early November, Fresno in early September, etc
I have a lot of respect for TCU. They were able to strengthen their programs when they werenât in a power conference.
Baylor on the other hand. Theyâve been propped up for years by UT and A&M. Im not sure how theyâre going to fare when the dust settles.
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Ok, So Baylor sues ESPN while all other BIG12 teams relocate to other conferences. Baylor wins and receives millions and millions of dollars.
Now what.
Baylor is blackballed and no one wants to be associated with them. ESPN and Fox decide to not broadcast a Baylor game so any conference that invites them knows up front that any conference game involving them will never be on ESPN/FOX.
Baylor will be an independent buy without BYUâs TV contract.
Remember last year when UH equipment truck was already at Mclane Stadium and they canceled the game.
Baylor fans will be wishing for games involving SMU, Memphis, San Diego St., Rice, Tulane, etc. Instead of a season that has Houston Baptist, Lamar, Murray St. and big games against Liberty and Army.
No, if anyone is able to realize the new normal, regardless of how it came about, life after lawsuit, regardless of who wins, can be horrific from a FB schedule standpoint.
I am sure ADâs and school presidents at OSU, KSU, TCU, WVU, TTech, KU, and ISU are realizing this and already looking for exit strategies for the long term. Hey, maybe even the Baylor AD is thinking about this since they have the most soiled image to market to potential suitors.
Again this is written in jest, just for fun.
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I would say Baylor may sully their reputation and find it hard to find anyone willing
to want to play with them for a very long time. Buts thatâs not realistic; reputation already
shot.
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