Herman is basically bringing all the coaches and support staff with him. We have to completely start over with an established Head Coach that can do what Herman is doing…bring an entire team…UH at Austin.
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Applewhite is no longer welcome in Austin after the legal problems he caused, but he is welcome to move on.
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Just completely baffled by the comments about Applewhite. Apparently folks don’t get that Applewhite calls the game Herman wants him to call. He’s never been a Helton-like OC. At Rice when he ran the show he threw the ball all over the place and got the Owls to their first bowl in 738 years. The year we won C-USA we beat them by a point, and that was thanks to a blocked extra point. He couldn’t do whatever he wanted under Saban or Mack Brown or Herman. He’s a great recruiter with connections to local and state HS coaches and also to a lot of college coaches. I’d be more than fine with him as our next head coach.
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I like him too. I think he’s an excellent QB coach and a fair game caller. He still needs some seasoning though before assuming the HC gig.
Fair comment. He may. But Maggard wanted to hire him in '07, and Applewhite said himself he wasn’t ready. Saban tapped him to be Alabama’s OC when MA was in his 20s.
However I recall many years ago Applewhite was the OC at Syracuse under the former DC at Texas Robinson … started out 0 - 10 2005 … then on to Rice under Todd Graham … 7 - 6 2006 and Saban at Bama 7 - 6 2007 then on to Texas …
22 - 3 here under Herman … so he has not been on his own to call his own shots or offensive schemes.
orlando applied for the job as head coach, obviously he would like to stay .
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Major was allowed to call his own game, but Hermans vision certainly played a factor. However, every head coach has a vision of how they want their offense to run. Coach Herman wanted an offense that established the run. He wanted to expand the field vertically and horizontally. Tom knew if we could run the ball and stop the run we could win. Based on our success I would say Major did a good job of calling plays within the Herman system. That dynamic was not unique to Houston.
I think the best scenario involves an experienced head coach like Holgerson, Montgomery or Miles while retaining our OC and DC. Of course I could be wrong, but most of their coaches and support staff just left for UT.
Neither OC or DC will stay. Rare to apply for job while on staff, not get it, and stay on. It’s awkward between new coach and yourself. If one of them stays it will be as HC. I would say Orlando is only one with chance as HC. But all just a guess.
Was UH able to hang onto Orlando this past offseason because of the former coach’s plan to jump ship and open up a shot at the HC position for him? I thought Wisconsin or someone else offered him a position this past offseason. I am on board with Orlando but what do I know? I thought it would be good to hold onto David Gibbs…
We’ve hired two coaches from the previous staff to replace the HC that left, John Jenkins and Tony Levine. The two combined had a record of 39-32.
Good thing I am not in charge of hiring coaches…man, that is not a good trend. Sure would like to keep the recruiting momentum and the H-Town Takeover going. Whatever it takes…I trust the people in charge (unless they hire Briles).
I like him as well. He has tutored under some big name coaches but I think he needs to be able to call his own plays without an HC constantly overriding him. I follow Rice pretty closely and when he was there he definitely lit up the score board. Don’t know if he is HC material, but we won’t know until he gets the keys to the car.
Jenkins also went 10-1 (and finished #10 I believe in 1990) and was the man behind both Ware and Klingler. It wasn’t his coaching that got him canned. It was a multi-headed monster including the AD who fired him after one bad season and hired Kim Helton, a “real” coach. Jenkins was probably too volatile to be an HC but he was certainly no worse than Helton.
Jenkins went 10-1 his first season, the final two he was 8-14.
You’re right about why he was fired, but I was just stating a fact.
Good catch. But given the disarray in the athletic department it was a miracle he won anything. He clearly was not HC material (at that time) but do you think Helton was the solution?
No
Helton should have been fired after his third season, he was 4-28. His fourth year was our first year in C-USA and we finished 7-5 and were conference co-champions. We extended his contract after that season and it’s clear that came back to bite us in the long run.
We agree. The one bright game in Helton’s tenure was that conference championship game played at Robertson. It was the first time Robertson was full to overflowing. Boy was it cold but that overtime win was one for the books. It mislead all of us into thinking we were finally making progress. That was wrong. Flash in the pan.
We tried to go cheap with Helton and Brooks hirings. Then we tried to go cheap again with Levine and Dickey hirings.
Hopefully history doesn’t repeat again any time soon.