All the Aggies that I know are totally p****d about tu joining the SEC. They are done with wanting to play the whorns. I doubt the B1G will invite aTm, but if they do, I think the aggies are gone as fast as they can ink the paperwork.
I doubt aTm likes being back underneath UTâs yolk.
I cannot rule it out a move by aTm to the B1G, though I think the chances are low.
DreamâŠ
TAMU + FSU + Clemson + whoever you want as #4 to the Big 12!
If we are moving towards a 3 x 20 P3, the networks would gain more by spreading the top brands over the 3 conferences.
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Itâs hard to determine what the conference landscape will look like in the next 2 media cycles.
Right now, everyone is determining the future based on tradition and whatâs realized today. âThe SEC and Big Ten are the Power 2, and everyone else has no choiceâ. Thatâs the sentiment.
Things can change. When OU and UT left. Everyone thought the Big 12 was done. Big 12 not only survived, but persevered. The Big 12 was left out of the âAllianceâ which was a short-lived alliance between the PAC, ACC and Big Ten. Now the ACC is on the verge of collapse. And guess what⊠The Big 12 is one of three stable conferences that remain.
The SEC in my opinion, has no reason to expand at this point outside of 2 schools. UNC and UVA. Any other additions just create mess and chaos which they donât need.
The Big Ten will always have its eyes set on Notre Dame. They are already at 18 teams, 2 of which are at half shares until 2030. They arenât adding anyone until they know what Notre Dame does. In my opinion, as much as Texas A&M hates being in the same conference as UT, it just makes no sense for them to leave the SEC.
A&M to the Big 12? I doubt it. The Big 12 still has a lot to prove if itâs going to try and grab big time programs. Itâs not there yet, but time will tell.
Even Aggie is not stupid enough to take a pay cut to get out from under Hornâs shadow.
I think.
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Well technically it wouldnât be a pay cut because the Big Ten currently gets more money than the SEC. However, thatâs mainly because of Ohio State and Michigan if weâre being honest.
However, the SEC will eventually make more than the Big Ten. People call me crazy, but I wouldnât be surprised if the SEC eventually tries its hand at 2 or 3 Big Ten schools⊠such as Ohio State and MichiganâŠ
The fact of the matter is that the Big Ten has the worst parity in all of college football. Thatâs probably going to hurt FOX in the long run. When you look at things such as adding 4 west coast schools, the âallianceâ, etc⊠to me it shows the beginnings of future instability.
I was referring to A&M to the B12. I think A&M to the B10 is a longshot.
At this point and based on the landscape currently, it would be more likely that A&M joins the Big Ten rather than the Big 12.
The Big 12 offers no incentive to get big time programs because the Big 12 simply does not pay anywhere near what the SEC / Big Ten pays. The only way Big 12 can get big name programs is with outside help, such as Private Equity. Perhaps just for 1 or 2 media cycles until the Big 12 can bridge the revenue gap with media money alone.
2030 is going to be interesting because both the Big 12 and Big Ten media contract end that year. I personally donât think the Big 12 should add anyone until 2030 unless they can get FSU and Clemson. I think letting the ACC survive for 4-5 more years is in the best interest of the Big 12.
I donât see it that way.
Though neither move is LIKELYâŠ
aTm to the B1G is LESS UNlikely than any B1G to the SEC.
As I said beforeâŠthe B1G is the one conference that historicallyâŠNOBODY poaches.
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I wouldnât disagree with you, but i reiterate, most assumptions about the future are based on historical sentiment.
The fact of the matter is that college athletics (football and basketball really) is changing, and fast.
What FOX wants, versus what the Big Ten inertia wants, versus what individual schools within the Big Ten want, are all 3 different things.
Would Northwestern or Maryland or Rutgers ever leave for the SEC? Absolutely not, nor would the SEC ever invite those schools. Even the Big 12 would never invite any of those schools.
Ohio State and Michigan on the other hand, do not require a conference to validate their own brand or athletic integrity. If the SEC adds UNC and Virginia, then nobody can claim the SEC no longer cares about academic integrity either especially because they now have UT. UT and UNC are essentially public ivies.
Not seeing it.
Nobody leaves the B1G for another big-time conference.
Itâs never happened.
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Funny because, with he exception of Texas and Florida, the SEC is built around schools in some of the poorest least educated states with few thriving economic centers.
Hard to believe that is sustainable.
They DEFINITELY need to get into North Carolina and Virginia before they double dip into South Carolina and Florida
Wouldnât surprise me if the SEC also adds Duke 1) to pair with North Carolina as one of the biggest rivalries in college basketball 2) to improve their developing basketball reputation and 3) to improve their academic profile.
North Carolina
Virginia
Duke
Kansas
to the SEC as #17-20 would not surprise me.
Iâm only going based on what i hear and assume myself.
Look at Greg Sankeyâs comments from media days. He (and SEC ADâs) outright call FSU a bad conference partner. Sankey also says that the SEC would never expand unless the schools ADD to the pie, not DILUTE the pie. FSU, despite its brand power, does not really add to the SEC because the SEC already has a flag in Florida.
Ohio State and Michigan, on the other hand, would absolutely ADD to the pie in every way.
Talk about culture shock if that happens.
They would add to ANY conference, but both consider the SEC to be beneath them.
Not happening.
Would they be forced to get rid of their male cheerleaders dressed in milk man outfits?
You know because the school FINALLY started allowing women to attend their university in the mid/lat 1960s but they forget to add them to the cheer squads??
Even the bottom tier SEC schools (from an academic standpoint) have high out of state student populations.
Thatâs the main difference.
I donât see Duke joining the SEC. The SEC values flagship, land grant institutions which Duke is not. The SEC also prefers public schools. Vanderbilt is the only exception because they are a founding member which the SEC is loyal to.
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So does the B1G.
10 of its 18 members, and 10 of its 16 publics, are LAND GRANT universities.
aTm is a good fit, in that regard.
Check the TV ratings for the NC/Duke gamesâŠyou may change your mind in relation to top college rivalries.
When I attended the UH/ BAMA basketball game I was speaking with a few Bama fans and they said the commissioner directly told the schools to start investing in basketball. They WANT to be the best basketball conference ALSO.
NC + Duke + Kentucky + Kansas will really solidify the conference
Again, the SEC is going to eventually make more money than the Big Ten.
Sure, Big Ten schools see the SEC as beneath them (not sure why when the SEC now has the most lucrative brand in College Athletics, UT), but as Iâve said before, FOX is going to hit a ceiling paying triple digit millions to schools like Northwestern and Rutgers.
The SEC, has an entire region that cares about football more than any other conference including the Big Ten and Big 12. Thatâs their strength.
Big Ten can flex their academic prestige all they want, but again, itâs not going to get them more money in the long run from the media market.
Keep in mind, ESPN still has to pay for the ACC. Once the ACC is no longer a Power Conference, then ESPN will have more money to play withâŠ