Future Realignment Thread

Not quite. Here is why uta and okie went to the sec.
espn told uta and okie that the BIG12 would be dead without them.
This was going to have the following effects:
uta, atm and okie would be the only Texas/Oklahoma teams in a power conference. Thus greatly impacting local recruiting.
Both teams bolt to the sec 100% convinced they had a clear road ahead…but wait there is more.
Bowlesby the then BIG12 commissioner found out what this plan was all about and threatened to sue espn for breach of contract. espn had no choice but to honor its media contract. They/espn would have clearly lost in court. This resulted in the BIG12 surviving what the SWC could not in 1996. Bowlesby had put together an immediate back up plan. He saved the BIG12 from the same fate that the SWC and the PAC12 endured. Facts are that now you have UH in a power conference this is the result that uta never wanted. Remember friends, uta PRINTS MONEY all day long with the PUF. Money was never the end game in all of this but complete Texas recruiting dominance or close to it.
Getting Keisean and other high ranked Houston recruits has always been paramount for uta and atm dominance. For the first time since pre 1976 UH is in a position to be a National powerhouse. uta and okie never expected this. The last thing they wanted was for UH to be back in a power conference. If this was remotely possible uta would have never bolted to the sec.

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Dude how do you constantly just make up facts about any topic or subject. I don’t understand it.

Bowlsby didn’t sue ESPN. He initiated a cease and desist letter, and the result of the negotiation led to UT/OU paying exit fees.

If the PAC12 had survived, it would’ve been because
a. They were able to get a media deal before the Big 12
b. Texas Tech and/or TCU would’ve likely joined the PAC12 after the implosion of the Big 12.

And why does he keep saying “UTA?”

I mean, we all know what he means.

But it seems silly for him to keep saying “UTA” (University of Texas at ARLINGTON), when he means UT.

Schools like Tech and Okie State might have left.

But not TCU.

The old PAC used to have an “R1” thing much like the B1G has an “AAU” thing.

UTA is UT Arlington
uta is the cows in Austin

Easy enough to discern

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Without Bowlesby there is no BIG12. espn tried to sink the BIG12 and Bowlesby went after espn.
What’s the matter you can’t read?
Then-Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby “went after” ESPN in July 2021 by issuing a formal cease-and-desist letter and publicly accusing the network of conspiring to break up the Big 12 Conference. Bowlsby alleged that ESPN was encouraging other conferences to poach Big 12 members to facilitate Texas and Oklahoma’s move to the SEC while avoiding massive exit fees.

Off course that was espn’s and uta’s intent.
By doing so this was one less conference to pay to. For espn that is saving a ton of money. Sorry if it is too hard for you to comprehend.
For uta this was kicking…again Texas schools from being part of a power conference. Thus much easier recruiting for them. Sorry if this is too hard for you to comprehend.

You are exactly right. Of course they know what it is. There are a lot of posters on coogfans that go both ways/supporting uta.

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I’ve noticed that. No burnt orange in my closet. COOGS should make a pledge to never wear that color

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Let’s face it. Burnt orange and maroon are hard colors to wear, unless you are supporting your team with those colors. If those colors are so great, why aren’t there more cars on road with those colors? Because they are not in demand. As a side note, it probably kills their resale value.

While I am ranting about colors, lets give LSU some grief about purple. The only purple car I have seen driven was a guy with a feather in his fedora with a bunch of hoochie mamas as passengers.

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RN there is a 12 team playoff. There’s an idea of a potential 24-team CFP and the elimination of conference championship games. What’s the point of a power conference w no championship?

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PAC had terrible decision making from the schools and the commish. Constant arguing over everything, including media deals…They had a perfectly respectable offer from ESPN even after they lost schools, and turned it down. The result was complete implosion of the PAC. First the Big East, and then the PAC…Dont turn down ESPN…Bad things will happen to you.

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talk to your kids about perennial playoff participant iowa

The B1G promoted a 24 team CFP last year but it went nowhere because the SEC was not on board.

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I suspect the only thing stopping the PAC from making good decisions was USC’s planning to bolt for the BIG. USC wasn’t going to agree to a PAC-ESPN deal at any price

No, it really started by hiring a non competent commissioner that had devastating impact especially the idiotic media deal. If Yormark had been with the PAC12 years ago the PAC12 would be thriving today.

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I can’t remember where I read it, but there was apparently a meeting not long before the B1G raid in which the leadership of the PAC schools discussed adding some of the larger Big 12 brands right after UT and OU departed for the SEC.

It was voted down, allegedly with the most vociferous opposition coming from…ironically enough…USC and UCLA…both of whom were apparently secretly plotting a defection to the B1G.

Ah yes!

I found the LA Times story on that. Click here:

Inside the Pac-12 collapse: Four surprising moments that crushed the conference.

Scroll down to the section marked “To Expand Or Not.”

Yep!

It was USC’s Folt, representing both USC and UCLA, that objected the loudest, and the PAC, not willing to risk losing its biggest football brand and only football blue blood, backed down.

Little did they know what USC and UCLA were apparently working on behind the scenes.

I’ll cut and paste some of it here:

Kliavkoff, in his first weeks on the job, didn’t push back against Folt given USC’s importance to the league, a source said.

****Kliavkoff declined to comment on the meeting.

Less than a year later, on June 30, 2022, the Pac-12 was caught off guard when USC and UCLA bolted for the Big Ten.

If the Pac-12 had added Big 12 schools when it had the chance, it would have remained the fourth-best conference without the L.A. schools.

Instead, the Big 12 survived and added four schools of its own from the “Group of Five” — BYU, Cincinnati, Houston and the University of Central Florida. The Big 12 was composed of 12 schools that were not of interest to the Big Ten and SEC, so they presented a united front.

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The Pac-12 now featured 10 teams, with Oregon and Washington pining for a Big Ten invite. The timing of the events made the league even more vulnerable. With their media rights agreements complete in the spring of 2024, Pac-12 schools were free to leave and start play in another conference in 2024 with no exit fees.

This time, a war room wouldn’t be enough for Kliavkoff. His wounded conference needed a MASH unit, too.

247 reported the same thing.

https://247sports.com/article/usc-president-sabotaged-pac-12-expansion-prior-to-trojans-big-ten-jump-per-report-190729790/

Anyway, for people that theorize that the NCAA never punishes “blue bloods,” the probation that weakened USC might be a strong argument to the contrary.

I realize that UT and OSU have gotten slaps on the wrist in the past, but there’s no denying that USC hasn’t been the same since they got hit.

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The NCAA did come down hard on Michigan football for sign stealing and impermissible visits. Michigan is a blueblood and this is not a slap on the wrist:

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Well there you have it!

UT has somehow dodged the bullet a bunch of times, but other blue bloods like USC and Michigan have definitely been hit hard.

Really?
Was michigan banned from being on TV?
The answer will ne no.
Was michigan prohibited from recruiting players?
The answer will be no.
Was michigan forced to play with a reduced roster?
The answer will be no.
What michigan got was a financial penalty and even that this is a drop in their bucket.
Harbaugh is laughing in the nfl.

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