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So you have to change the definition of popularity to win the argument. Get the last word in and feel good about your argument, wash rinse and repeat

I also think the argument is highly regional.

When teams with an actual following come to the states, they do multiples of the NHL’s attendance numbers. Barca has filled up the Rose Bowl a couple of times for meaningless friendlies. Club America’s annual US tour puts about 50k per stop in NFL stadiums. What kinda numbers are neutral-site NHL preseason games doing?

No, I said from the beginning:

Quote: And yet, even those leagues don’t get the ratings of the NHL in the USA once the Stanley Cup playoffs are taken into account.

Pro soccer is a pretty distant #5 in the USA as team sport followings in the USA go.

It was originally about TV ratings. Pro ice hockey beats pro soccer in the USA in that regard.

Then Wheeler tried to switch the issue up and make it attendance at different levels.

Ice hockey beats soccer in the USA in that regard as well, as I pointed out at three different pay to watch levels.

Then Wheeler tried to bring up high school, kids leagues, polls of people on the streets, etc.

So you see,

HE is the one that keeps changing the issue, changing definitions, etc.

HE has to do that to win…and of course…that means he has already LOST on the issue I brought up.

At least get that much right.

Based on TV ratings and attendance, the following for pro ice hockey is indeed greater than for pro soccer in the USA.

PERIOD.

FULL STOP.

Yall are just feeding his spank bank.

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Riddle me this: if Hockey is so popular, why isn’t there a Hockey version of Ojos Locos?

A man of culture i see

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Who says there isn’t?

They carry lots of NHL games.

It’s one their “core” things.

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Being able to fit all of the Hockey-watchers in Houston into one sports bar is not a winning argument.

As if every soccer watcher in Houston fits into the bar you mentioned. Don’t be silly now.

I simply pointed out that, just as there are bars that focus on soccer, there are also bars in Houston that put a lot of emphasis on hockey.

Ojos Locos is a chain with multiple locations.

The only proper Hockey bar in Houston (the Maple Leaf) is currently vacant, whereas the actual soccer bar in Houston (Pitch 25) is expanding.

There is more than one bar in Houston that shows a lot of hockey.

And Ojos Locos is mostly about something other than soccer.

It’s a “breastaurant” chain.

But is there more than one in Houston that you can find a lot of hockey watchers at, game-in and game-out?

Again…most of the people at Ojos Locos aren’t there for soccer.

They are there for the “breastaurant” thing, if you know what I mean.

Why isn’t there a hockey-themed national breastaurant chain if it’s so popular?

Breastaurant chains aren’t sports themed.

They are “you know what” themed.

Soccer is a pretty huge element of their brand, probably third behind the obvious two.

Can’t say the same about Hockey anywhere.

Their brand…like Hooters, Twin Peaks, etc., is NOT about soccer.

It’s about…you know…whacking material.

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Soccer definitely is part of the thing that differentiates them from other players in the market, like the aforementioned Hooters, Twin Peaks, etc.

I can order a soccer ball beer bong at Ojos Locos. Where can I order a hockey puck beer bong? Talk about willingness to spend.

I would say that besides whacking material…the next biggest thing about their brand isn’t soccer.

See here:

Quote: Ojos Locos Sports Cantina is a chain of Mexican-themed sports bars and restaurants based in Dallas, Texas, and having locations throughout the American Southwest.

So you see, their “theme” other than cleavage, is ethnicity/nationality.

Maybe because I’ve only lived in the South or West but I’ve never ran into many Hockey fans.