“The rules were you guys weren’t going to fact check”
Signed 51.
They will be firing the police chief once one of those babies has an accident and they see tge repair costs.
This is unit green in pursuit but I don’t want to risk the vehicle and I am running low on charge, requesting immediate ICE backup.
The police chief “my insurance costs are WHAT? They are worth WHAT after a year? No one told me that!!!”
LOL you guys are so silly.
Speaking of accidents…they’re typically safer than like ICE’s…
EVs have a low center of gravity, which reduces the risk of rollover. They also have larger crumple zones to absorb the impact of a crash. Stats back it up…EV’s are safer for drivers…
“The Highway Loss Data Institute (HLDI), affiliated with the IIHS, generated a study showing that the frequency of injury claims by drivers and passengers of EVs was more than 40% lower than for identical conventional models during the eight years between 2011-2019.”
Meanwhile, crooks might like EV’s for other reasons besides their cost and health savings…
Don’t confuse him with facts. He can only think in bullet points that he’s been fed.
I’m half convinced he’s a chat bot.
That is not very nice.
Repair costs, insurance costs, dramatic loss in resale value. Wake up America and protect Norb from being forced to buy a bad product.
If you want to but a bad product buy 12, I don’t care. But don’t force Norb to do it.
So I think I see the issue here. You seem to think that the current state of EVs will always be the way it is. We’re still in the early adoption phase. Yes, they’re expensive. The public charging grid isn’t great. Repair and insurance costs are high. But that won’t always be the case. Battery prices are plummeting, battery capacity is increasing, and repair costs and insurance costs will eventually come down as EVs become more widespread.
I’m sure it was hard to own an ICE when gas stations didn’t exist and nobody knew how to repair them. But I don’t think anybody is clamoring for the days of horse and carriage now.
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Yes I agree EVs are expensive and impractical and tax payers are paying for it and a certain political party wants to mandate more of the expensive and impractical vehicle. Which is really dumb.
Don’t forget the lithium mines. Or the transmission loss of electricity over lines. Or the oil it takes to transport materials. Or the cancer from windmills.
Bro, you think you’re winning? We’re just laughing at you and your mindless bulletpoint regurgitation you were fed by your media.
Norb I am looking out for you and keeping you safely away from being forced to do something you don’t want to do. Do you want to be forced to buy an EV.
I assume you own a computer? Check out the inflation-adjusted price of computers over the years - Cost of a computer every year since 1970 – Chicago Tribune
I assume you own a TV? The inflation-adjusted price of TVs today is 99.32% lower than in 1950. Televisions price inflation, 1950→2024
According to this website, you could buy 13.23 refrigerators in 2022 for the price of one refrigerator in 1956. Refrigerator Abundance - Human Progress
Point is, new technology ALWAYS costs more when it’s first introduced. The cost argument therefore holds no weight. It seems like you just have an affinity for oil and gas, which is your prerogative. But you should take a minute and ask yourself if you’re perhaps a bit biased on this issue. If your answer is yes, then maybe you shouldn’t act as if we’re all idiots for having a different opinion.
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None of that will matter. He’s a chat bot.
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My Commodore 64 never cost $75,000. I didn’t ask the tax payers to pay for my Commodore 64. When my Commodore 64 had a system failure (which it did often), I wasn’t stranded somewhere.
Who’s forcing anything on anyone?
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“The rules were you guys weren’t going to fact check”
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At least use right numbers for the 4 best selling car in the US.
The price of the 2024 Tesla Model Y starts at $44,630 and goes up to $54,130 depending on the trim and options. Buying an electric car is all about driving range, and the Long Range and Performance models offer 310 and 285 miles of range, respectively.
As to how the C64 came to be, you really need to acknowledge the huge amount of Federal investment in getting transistors created.
Read the link !
Computation and the Electronic Digital Computer
There are many stories of the U.S. federal government directly nurturing the creation and expansion of technological competence within the computer industry, but in the interest of brevity one will be highlighted. Started immediately after WW II and paid for by the Navy, the Whirlwind computer project at MIT realized the first breakthrough in random access memory called magnetic core-memory, which later became critical for the commercialization of computers
For the military, however, the transistor was essential to the progress of its weapon and mobile communications systems. Increasing complexity characterized the design of new weapons systems in the 1950s. More and more components were being jammed into circuits to do ever more sophisticated tasks. Increasing complexity translated into physically larger systems. Complexity also meant correspondingly higher energy demands and heat dissipation issues for electronic systems. There were limits to the number of electronic components that one could stuff into an airplane or missile. So miniaturization was essential. Increased complexity also brought problems of reliability. As the number of components (particularly vacuum tubes) increased, the “mean time between failures” (MTBF) of the entire system got shorter. The reliability problem was compounded by the less than ideal conditions in which these systems would operate. The more sophisticated the system, the more likely it would fail. To the military mind the implications were truly frightening. In 1953, one senior U.S. Navy Officer, referring the lessons of Mary Shelley’s novel, captured this fear in the following words: “like the creator of Frankenstein we have produced devices which in the hands of the operating forces, are so unreliable that they could lead to our ultimate destruction.” The complexity, miniaturization, and reliability difficulties were further accentuated by the military’s obsession with ultimate performance. Because of the relative simplicity of radios, phonographs, and televisions, complexity was never such an issue for the consumer electronics industry.
The military devoted a great deal of money to miniaturizing the vacuum tube an
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Wait till he learns how the internet came to be. (google DARPA & Internet)
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Uhmmm…WOW…$27,495 (after 7500 Tax break 51 hates)…$34995 before tax break…about the same you’d pay for a Rav4 Hybrid.
Range 319 Miles. Not too shabby.
2024 Chevrolet Equinox EV FWD :: EPA Range rating by InsideEVs
[Electric Vehicle 2-cycle label]
Combined
City
Highway 319 miles (513 km)
EPA Energy consumption (including charging losses):
Combined
City
Highway 108 MPGe: 312 Wh/mi or 3.2 miles/kWh
117 MPGe: 288 Wh/mi or 3.5 miles/kWh
99 MPGe: 340 Wh/mi or 2.9 miles/kWh
This will sell well.
Buy one, buy 12 I couldn’t give a sh*t but don’t make the taxpayers underwrite your dumbazzedness.
If you feel strongly about the product buy it. If a ton of people feel the sane way manufacturers will follow your lead.
As it stands it is just more government dumbazzedness and it is funding a crappy product. EVs are dumb on just about every level.
But I am ok with you being dumb but I am not ok with taxpayers paying for it.
Can’t stop commenting but doesn’t care. Sure Jan.
319 miles and $35K MSRP…wouldn’t be surprised if they discount that 3-4K at dealerships.
All without new battery tech.
I completely expect subsidies to not be renewed based on this…and they will still crush ICE costs.
So, lets review
Currently:
Purchase cost EV > ICE
Operation cost EV < ICE
Maintenance cost EV < ICE
Very soon:
Purchase cost EV < ICE
Operation cost EV < ICE
Maintenance cost EV < ICE
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The guy with the most posts says he doesn’t care. Liar.
Don’t worry, you can always just key an EV.