National publications have picked up the attendance debacle

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I’ve already explained the mechanism for this.

No, I’ve already told you what will convince me. Find the schools that implemented mandates and show that the class for which the mandates were implemented graduated at higher rates. The data is out there, as I’ve already shown. It’s on Form B of the Common Data Set, 6 years after each cohort enrolled. Every school publishes this. This shouldn’t be hard, as long as you have the chops to do an ounce of legwork. If the effect is as strong as you believe it is, it should be obvious.

The fact that you can’t point to an actual success story is damning.

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So you agree we need more money to do all this correct? Good! Let’s get all the Rich guys from UH and tell them to build the school up and buy more players from the portal. But I like the fact that you said it starts with money from the bank. Call your buddies to make he happen.

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The rich guys aren’t doing it unless it’s profitable, and they evidently don’t think it is. If you disagree, go for it.

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Then I can only assume that if we follow T-Moar and Whitmire’s lead, the problems we have will likely never resolve, and the odds of us reaching AAU, USNEWS Top 50 public, and having better fan support and campus life will remain small.

It’s sad how much the status quo…however negative…has so much inertia that that it causes multitudes of people to simply refuse to change.

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I don’t disagree, but everyone here is always complaining about UH. So if people are complaining they should put the money up.

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Man, when we get there without a housing mandate, you are gonna be in shambles.

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Wake me up when that happens.

Even if we get enough research to attain AAU, getting where we want in terms of fan support and USNEWS Top 50 public without a housing mandate seems like a stretch.

I won’t be in shambles if it happens.

In fact, I’ll jump for joy if it does.

I just know it’ll be much harder given the effects of commuterism on graduation rates and alumni/fan involvement.

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Fine…I’ll get off the hamster wheel on this :slight_smile:

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I have been to Cincinnati and spoke with some of their fans on a few road games.

Some of their students count as out of state if they live in the eligible parts of northern Kentucky or southeast Indiana but they pay in-state tuition rates.

https://www.uc.edu/about/bursar/tuition-fees/non-resident-surcharges.html

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I figured that a bulk of those out of staters at Cincy were from right across the river in Northern Kentucky; that’s a lot like going to UH and being from the Houston suburbs, to me.

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I hate to say it but if there was a game on the schedule where you had to pick a game to miss that wasn’t an away game or off week, WVU was it.

I don’t like to miss home games, but I had to pick a weekend in November to travel and the other weeks didn’t work out schedule-wise.

That said, I put a former Houston Coog football player in my seat.

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The airport that serves the Cincinnati area is actually in northern Kentucky.

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Interesting. Didn’t realize that.

I lived in Ohio for four years, but it was all in Cleveland.

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UC played basketball at NKU while their arena was being renovated a while back.

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You learn the hard way flying in for away games lol.

I once had to fly into Dulles International Airport in northern Virginia to get into the Washington DC area.
Then drove to Annapolis for the UH at Navy game.

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The whole attendance thing is ridiculous! Did we have any problems with Tech or Colorado? NO! Those games were at night. You want to solve our attendence problems? Dont play at 11:00am! and let our TV broadcasters know its a problem for us…When a SFA night game outdraws a Big 12 11:00 am game, that tells you all you need to know. And 25 or 28 thousand isnt a debacle. Its a problem we need to solve. You know what a debacle is? Its a crowd of 5000 or 10,000…I have been to home games with both. THATS a debacle…Our attendance will automatically make a jump next year because we are now a winning program with a winning record. Oh, and Chris, this post isnt at you, its at the whole thread about attendance.

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I agree that the 11:00am thing has an effect based on the low numbers we had for both Arizona and WVU at home.

But I don’t think it is JUST that.

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I think it would be really good to read a study on living on campus vs graduation rates based on why they are living on campus.

I agree in that I don’t think it is strictly living on campus is a deciding factor. I knew many that lived on campus during my undergrad at TCU and did not do well academically since they still liked to party more. The drive to succeed academically is what is important. The drive factor is likely higher in importance than the on campus factor. They just overlap because living on campus also helps them succeed so they choose to be on campus.

The on campus is probably more of a correlation than a causation.

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https://housing.tcu.edu/housing-license/#:~:text=RESIDENCY%20REQUIREMENT,in%20fewer%20than%209%20hours

RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT
You are required to live in a Texas Christian University residential community or a master-leased property for your first and second years out of high school unless you meet one of the following criteria:

  • 21 years of age or older before the first class day
  • Veteran
  • Enrolled in fewer than 9 hours
  • Married and/or dependent children living with you
  • Living with your parent/legal guardian within 30 miles from campus
  • 1st-semester transfer student at TCU

TCU has a TWO year Housing mandate.

Its graduation rate is over 85%…more than 20 percentage points higher than housing non-mandated UH.

Enough said.

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