A lot from restaurants and casinos NATIONWIDE, not that that matters to this conversation.
I doubt it’s that simple for reasons unknown, but in my opinion, I think it would be a mistake to depend on Tillman for everything.
It would massively reduce the pressure for other donors
We aren’t…as im trying to tell LAW…our basketball NIL is on fire…many are Houston area corporate donations both big and small.
A big one was Jamal Shead’s ExxonMobil deal
It’d be cool if he could be our NIL “sugar daddy” in the same way that Phil Knight is for Oregon or SMU’s oil barons are for SMU.
Would solve a lot of problems!
Hasn’t seemed to show much interest in that so far though.
Basketball is comparatively easy though.
Only takes 2-3 players per year. OF COURSE we can come up with money for that.
Football is a different story. You gotta come up with money for 25-30 players per year.
Much easier to come up with that money if you are UT or aTm or Tech…more fans…more fans with money…and more fans that are interested in filling the honeypot than if you are UH.
UNLESS…a Phil Knight or SMU oil baron type “sugar daddy” comes along. I used to hope that Tillman would be that guy…but it hasn’t really happened.
Maybe Mattress Mac could step up!
Yeah but the difference between us and say a school like UT is that even if UT is having down years in foootball or basketball, they can still generate NIL just from branding alone
UH cannot do this. UH isn’t a nationally recognized brand unless you follow sports, and by sheer caveat, UH has to be good in order to generate NIL
So is Alabama dinasty over?
Well we know for sure that their alums wont accept a similar season. What we need to keep on eye at is on their recruiting. Saban and his team did an amazing job at recruiting.
Right now bama is 4th and low 20’s in the transfer portal. Is this where are not doing as well as during the Saban’s year? Everyone could argue that with these recruits they ought to be up there. So is it coaching? bama fans will tell us soon enough.
They may never again be quite what they were…UNLESS they can come up with a bigger NIL sugar daddy.
Their fan base, while large and interested…does not appear to have money to compete with the biggest NIL players.
Yes, 3rd
Do you read any of my posts?
Bucket 1- brand, rich alums, collevtive via personal donations
Bucket 2- marketing/corporate opportunities in the school’s metro.
We can be top 10 in Bucket #2 (see the basketballprogram)…texas is top 10 in BOTH buckets.
Texas A&M struggles with bucket #2 and Texas Tech had virtually no #2 bucket
Why would you come up with a statement like that?
Have you ever heard of Bear Bryant…"“there will never be…”
Again done debating with yu. That is it.
Those market opportunities primarily exist if, and only if, the businesses in question are run by people that are both fans and interested.
In OSU’s case, that’s a given. OSU is the biggest show in town, and Ohio State’s following up there is comparable to aTm and UT’s combined in TX. Many Columbus businesses are run by OSU alums, and if not alums, then by local fans.
That makes their contribution and interest in investing in OSU athletics a given.
That’s NOT true of every school located in an urban area; in fact, more often than not, IT ISN’T.
Local businesses in Houston that want to advertise or link their names with sports will look more to our local PROFESSIONAL sports franchises first; after all, they have larger fan bases and working with them will reach a larger market of potential customers.
To the extent that they want to work with college sports, they are every bit as likely to work with UT or aTm (which have larger fan bases, as such, can reach larger markets) if not more so, than UH.
Those local businesses run by UH grads may not necessarily be run by UH FANS, because, as we all know, that a) we don’t have that many fans, and b) a large percentage of our alums either aren’t fans or don’t give a crap about UH sports…or at least…not enough to truly invest in it. We can’t really count on them either.
So in light of that…any reliance on the city of Houston as a big NIL honeypot…is probably misplaced.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and Mattress Mac, or Tillman, or someone else locally will decide to become our NIL “sugar daddy,” a la the SMU barons or Phil Knight.
I didn’t say “will never be.”
I said MAY never be.
UNLESS…as I said…they get a sugar daddy of their own like Phil Knight.
Until then, their fan base, while large and enthusiastic, does not appear to have the same money that the big NIL power players do.
That’ll make it tougher for them to ever be the top college football program in the future.
It’s amazing how you make my point for me yet you are STILL too blind to see it.
How so?
Does Houston have a comparable percentage of businesses run by UH alums and fans that are interested in feeding the NIL honeypot?
Hint: NO!!!
We all know that!
Go back and re-read my last post.
OSU has a supermassive, highly enthusiastic, and well moneyed fan base, both locally, and broader.
And that would be true regardless of whether they were located in Columbus or not. aTm and Tech aren’t urban, but are considered some of the biggest players in the NIL game for that very reason. OSU would be the same. Those Columbus businesses are contributing, not because of location, but because they are all run by FANS of OSU…again, it’s OSU’s supermassive and super enthusiastic fan base that makes that possible, NOT their location, per se.
PERIOD…FULL STOP.
We don’t have that, and being in a bit city HARDLY guarantees that. On the contrary.
Our fan base is small, unenthusiastic, and the fans that have money haven’t shown much interest. Doesn’t matter that we are in a city. You can be in a city with tons of local businesses. If they are run by people that either aren’t for your team or aren’t interested in spending on your team, urban location won’t make a damn bit of difference in NIL. See Houston, Cincy, UCF, GaTech, Cal, and Temple for reference.
OSU’s is precisely the opposite…and that has nothing to do with their location. Huge, very enthusiastic and willing, and well-moneyed fan base. THAT’S the key.
Bama’s fan base, while large and enthusiastic, does not appear to have the same money. That’s why they will have a hard time keeping up.
Has nothing to do with being located in Tuscaloosa. UAB, while located in a bigger city, likewise won’t be an NIL power. Their fan base is simply too miniscule.
Remember the three keys:
a) big fan base
b) interested in contributing, AND
c) have the money to contribute.
The biggest brands have all three. WE DON’T. And location doesn’t significantly affect that.
Sorry if that’s too difficult for you.
Because Tuscaloosa is not a big enough market (consumer base) to filter corporate NIL money back to Alabama.
They solely have to rely on Bucket #1 which is why, per the topic of this thread, they will fall behind
Ohio State has twice the NIL power…rich alums PLUS they sit in a market of 2.2 million people with plenty of opportunities to fill bucket #2…hence getting them to a COMBINED $20 million in NIL dollars in 2024.
Houston, has the potential to be very formidable in bucket #2 but we have some work to do on getting our alums/fans to donate to bucket #1.
Texas, Ohio State, Washington, SMU, USC, Michigan, North Carolina, etc…have the "potential " to use both buckets to their advantage a be NIL era powers
Tuscaloosa isn’t why.
It’s simply because Bama’s fans a) may not be as numerous; OSU’s attendance is greater, albeit barely, AND b) even if Bama’s fans are as numerous, and comparably enthusiastic, they certainly aren’t as wealthy.
Again, aTm and Tech are big NIL players and aren’t located in super big cities. State College, PA and Eugene OR aren’t big either; but those teams have made the playoffs, either by being super big brands (in PSU’s case), or by having a super rich sugar daddy, in Oregon’s case.
Houston and GaTech are located in big metro areas…and AREN’T big NIL players, and there’s a reason.
It has to do with the size, enthusiasm, and wealth of their fan bases. In UH’s case, that would be small, low, and not wealthy or interested enough/no sugar daddy.
Yes…TUSCALOOSA is WHY.
Are you brain dead…lol
Houston IS a big NIL player…we are bringing in the #2 recruiting class in basketball.
You keep acting like basketball is a throwaway…NO!
It’s just as competitive if not MORE competitive than football and WE, the Univetsity of Houston are near the top of that new food chain. Not easy to do!
Now on football Houston and Georgia Tech absolutely have the potential to be NIL powers…SMU already is there!
Its like you are oblivious to the fact the College Football Hierarchy is about to flip upside down
They aren’t comparable.
We can come up with the money to pay for a few basketball recruits per year.
Wake me up when we become able to pay the same to 25-30 football players per year the way that the big NIL players can (note: we aren’t close in that regard).
Fortunately, we have a bigger advantage in the transfer portal than just about anyone.
SMU is there ONLY because they have oil baron “sugar daddies.” NOT because of their location, per se.
WE DON’T have those.
And unless Tillman or Mattress Mac, or some other rich fat cat emerges as our NIL “sugar daddy,” comparable to Phil Knight or the SMU oil barons, don’t look for us to emerge as a football NIL power anytime soon.
For now…we’ll make up for that in other ways, such as the transfer portal, the depth and quality of local talent, AND NOW…the fact that we can now bring in top JUCO talent with four years of eligibility.
Um no…
Texas Tech is a perennial .500 school and Texas A&M has never sniffed the playoff.
Throwing around money doesn’t make you NIL savy
Yes…but we are still competing for those “few coveted players” with 300+ schools