According to sources, the settlement includes two key objectives: establishing a new revenue-distribution model based on viewership and a change in the financial penalties for exiting the league’s grant of rights before its conclusion in June 2036.
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on a law poster.
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In other words no other conference is willing to bend over and grab their ankles for them like the ACC.
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Well, I guess that is good for SMU.
As I said on another string……
Stay tuned for 2030; if the penalty for leaving is indeed going to be lowered, and most of the league is under now going to have to settle for less of a payout….look for at least a handful of dissatisfied ACC teams to bail around that time……the very time (not coincidentally) that the Big 12 will be negotiating its next (and presumably larger) TV deal.
I actually like how the ACC has an incentive structure for teams that make deep playoff runs, HOWEVER, given that no ACC team even came close to making it past the first round last year, it seems that few will be able to take advantage of that.
Let’s all say it together…breaking up the ACC benefits NOBODY
The B1G Ten just completed the most controversial expansion in the history of all conferences and they have A LOT of growing pains to go through with their 18 school coast to coast conference.
They aren’t rushing to add schools in Florida and South Carolina.
Anyone, not named LAW, knows that’s common sense…
The SEC expands at glacial speed so they have no reason to expand…
SMU knew all of this before they joined the ACC with their brilliant business move.
Make 3 times the $$ as staying in the AAC AND be a Power 4 brand!
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Benefits nobody?
Uh, no.
It almost certainly would benefit the Big 12.
That’s why so many of us are eagerly waiting for 2030.
This UNEVEN revenue sharing combined with reduced costs of exit only serve to INCREASE the anticipation!
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breaking up the ACC and allowing the P2 to make a further divide from a bloated Big 12 “tweener conference” would not benefit the Big 12.
Having a strong Big 12 + ACC helps both conferences in maintaining strength against the P2 and allows us BOTH to push back
Win ACC/Big 12 championships in Football and Basketball and prove the P2 is in name, only.
The P2 are going to get those biggest brands AT SOME POINT.
We might as well ALSO benefit.
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I want to care so much less about the ACC. I watched six of those manifesting videos on youtube. I tried mental blocking. White noise. Meditation. Sikh brooding. Nothing works.
I literally have reached the point where I cannot not care about Florida State more than I do now.
Has anyone else ever not cared to this degree? Or have you seen it on reddit? I’m kinda freaked out
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Oh look! Another back and forth about the fate of the ACC in year 203X. Yay 
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Mods pls merge
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I hope you’re right. What makes Big XII media rights worth more in 2030?
It’s always gone up each re-negotiation, even when OU/UT left and we came onboard.
No reason to believe that this iteration will be any different.
He doesn’t understand leverage.
Say, Law is correct and The B1G adds FSU + Clemson to get to 20 and the SEC adds North Carolina and Virginia to get to 18.
The Big 12 then adds 4-6 to get to 20 or 22 and the rest of the ACC castaways drop down to G#
The P2 just got stronger…taking the last value brands of the ACC/Big 12
So…
P2
B1G
SEC
M1
A Bloated Big 12
G# Whatever Conferences that are below that
The Big 12 payout will be way closer to the G# than the P2.
A healthy/ strong Big 12 PLUS ACC is the best thing for us getting a better deal on the market.
If all of the Big 12 worthy leftovers are moved to the Big 12, we have NO LEVERAGE to take anything other than the deal the media outlets are giving us…we just don’t have those 100,000 10 million viewer brands.
So, keep rooting for a bloated Big 12, with no leverage, and a STRONGER P2!
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It will be HIGHER than the ACC, which is tied down until 2036 at a lower amount. THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT!!!
We will ALWAYS make less than the P2. That’s not the issue. But we are now in a position to offer all but the ACC’s biggest brands more than what the ACC can offer, and that will still be several times more than any “G” conference can offer.
The issues are the following: a) will we make sufficiently more than the ACC to entice some of their members to come over in 2030 when we will presumably get an increased payout as we always have at each previous renegotiation, b) will uneven revenue sharing in the ACC make that gap even larger, c) will the decreased cost of exiting the ACC in 2030 make jumping to the Big 12 even more enticing for ACC members?
The answer to ALL THREE questions appears to be…YES…until further notice!
Consider this. If the 14 legacy ACC members all see a $7 million per year pay cut, which is what has been proposed, then they’ll all already be making less than the Big 12 through 2036. A presumed increase to the Big 12 payout in 2030 will presumably widen that gap. Also, while it used to cost WAY TOO MUCH to get out of the ACC with their outrageous GOR, if this article is correct, that cost will be MUCH lower in 2030 than it was before…fortunately for the Big 12…because that gives the ACC schools ticked off about making less and revenue sharing an additional incentive to bolt.
That means…if you are, let’s say, Louisville, NC State, VaTech, and possibly one other…you’ll need to at least CONSIDER making the jump to the Big 12, because at that point, it’ll likely be in your best financial interests to do so!
Hopefully they will!
Stay tuned!!!
And with that, the ACC will be further weakened and devalued.
It’ll be WELL behind the Big 12 as a conference, and with that many teams in the Big 12 all contending at a national level in a variety of different sports…it’ll be much tougher for the P2 to ignore the Big 12. The ACC will continue to exist, but will be in a position clearly beneath the Big 12.
Remember, Yormark did not hesitate to poach PAC teams when he had the chance.
I’m sure he’ll do the same with the ACC in 2030, and if the last round of realignment is any indication, that’ll only HELP the Big 12, NOT hurt it.
And no.
The Big 12 already makes SEVERAL TIMES what any “G” conference makes, so this theory of yours that our next re-negotiation will result in a payout closer to a “G” conference is absolutely NONSENSICAL.
Only YOU would say that, with all due respect. Totally CONTRARY to fact.
you’re the only one that thinks the Big 12 schools make more than the ACC ALL THINGS CONSIDERED because repeatedly leave out the money they make off of the ACC Network.
Yes, it is true the big 12 make more than the ACC on their INITIAL payouts but the ACC Networks ADDED to that makes them more.
The SMU poster has come on to this board multiple times to try to explain it to you but you don’t get that ALL revenue is added which I think is also your road block in understanding that UH pieces together Bucket #1 PLUS Bucket #2 deals to stay competitive.
Factor in ACC Tier 1 payouts + ACC Network payouts + Buyout Amount IF schools level and why in the world would they jump to the Big 12 whose TV deal expires in what 2030?
The total payout per school for the ACC including the ACC network is currently not much more than than the Big 12’s current total payout per school, and may be less.
If each of the 14 ACC members has to take a cut of $7 million, as is being predicted, then all 14 will be making less than the Big 12.
And that gap is likely to INCREASE in 2030 with renegotiation.
Sorry, but those are the facts!!!
And in 2030, it’ll reportedly be cheaper to get out of the ACC than it was previously!!!
STAY TUNED!!!
I just got this off of AI on Google:
AI Overview
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2022-2023 total revenue:
- ACC: $706.6 million
- Big 12: $510.7 million
2022-2023 average payout per school:
- ACC: $44.8 million
- Big 12: $44.2 million
Not sure if that has changed much in the last few year or two, but I doubt it.
And if you have to dock $7 million from each of the 14 “legacy” ACC schools, it’ll already be BEHIND the Big 12 in payouts per school…and will likely get worse in 2030.
That’s GOOD NEWS for the big 12 in terms of poaching disgruntled ACC members.
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I already dubunked that…
Your numbers are not current
That’s hardly a debunking.
Even assuming those podcasters’ numbers are right, that means that in 2026, as it currently stands:
Big 12: 41.6 million per school
ACC: 47 million per school
From that…TAKE AWAY $7 million per school from the legacy ACC members under the latest negotiations.
That puts the legacy ACC teams at 40 million per school…which is…drumroll please…LESS than the Big 12!
I REST MY CASE!!!
CASE CLOSED!!!
SUMMARY JUDGMENT AND DIRECTED VERDICT FOR UNLAW97!!!
As I said, that’ll only get WORSE in 2030 as the Big 12 will almost certainly get a new deal with bigger revenues, as it always has…WIDENING the payout gap with the legacy ACC schools, and the legacy ACC schools can’t do anything about that gap until 2036 except LEAVE the conference in 2030 if they can afford to do so.
And as I pointed out…that is reportedly going to be MUCH cheaper to do in 2030 than it previously had been, under the reported settlement.
Ideal time for the Big 12 to poach!
STAY TUNED!!!