I assume, they are not talking about athletic scholarships, but for those athletes that receive any academic money from the school.
There are some people that are so anti sports that I am somewhat shocked it took this long for this topic to come up.
The whole idea behind the NIL ruling was that players could make money outside of their academic pursuits in exchange for using their image.
I donāt understand how the schools were allowed to get involved in the first place.
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Good point. I actually thought the same thing. Perhaps we will get clarification in revised versions.
Whining about a student making over a quarter million dollars having to pay their tuition is stupid.
Almost any student that makes over $250,000 outside of school (which is what NIL is supposed to be) would probably not get any financial aid package at all without a 4.0 GPA. Just puts the athletes in the same category as other students.
and yes they will get paid for their time as it is called revenue sharing.
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Schools handing out scholarships are free to consider financial need (or whatever) in deciding whether to grant money. Even athletes who come to school with strong academics are sometimes put on academic scholarship rather than athletics to free up money to be used elsewhere.
And what āNILā was intended to do was allow players to capitalize on use of their āname, image and likenessā instead of merchants being able to sell their jerseys (for example) with no compensation and to let them get out and market themselves and make appearance fees, etc. Thereās nothing about it that guarantees that the school still gives them scholarship money.
What I donāt get is how the state is involved in the process.
I was talking specifically about NIL
Simple answer. Illinois is broke and has been broke for decades. This has nothing to do with sports but to impose another way for the state of Illinois to collect money on the back of the athlete. If Illinois could impose a fee for laughing they would.
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Is it just academic scholarships or athletic scholarships or do they not differentiate? (Not interested in reading the bill myself)
Of course when they start the profit sharing (or whatever it is called) that brings another element in to it that would need to be considered. I havenāt followed that part of the coming changes enough to know how that is supposed to work though.
The bill only states āacademic scholarshipsā and makes no mention of athletic scholarships.
Maybe thereās no legal distinction.
That doesnāt even make sense unless the state is administering scholarships, which Iām pretty sure is not the case.
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On the contrary, a student making $250k outside of school is probably on a merit scholarship.
That said, Iād generally assume that most students would drop out entirely if they had that income level. Itās not gonna do much for you at that point.
I doubt this really changes anything, with professional contracts they sometimes talk about the different levels of take home pay due to state and local income taxes but it rarely has a serious effect on where a player signs.
I really donāt get the opinions of some of you guys.
A kid EARNS an athletic scholarshipā¦.they have put in a ton of work to get to that levelā¦.saying āwell you get NIL money now so you donāt deserve one anymore ā is complete BS.
There are plenty of rich kids out there that receive athletic scholarships in all kinds of different sportsā¦.the school/state does not take it away because their family is wealthy.
If the average Joe has a job that gives them a car allowance as part of their compensation package, do they get it taken away because they are making more than 250K a year? No, that person earned that as part of their jobā¦ā¦a job where they beat out several other people.
Now, if you want to say the kid no longer qualifies for any kind of financial based grant/loan then fine, thats fair.
But you donāt say āno , you donāt get an athletic scholarship because you have moneyā.
Very few of you know the effort that is required to earn a D-1 scholarship and then the work involved to perform for that school and stay on scholarshipā¦.I guarantee if you did, you would not think it was fair to take it away.
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Again, if Illinois is the only B1G school that gets hamstrung with this crapā¦ā¦then the Illini are in trouble!
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You are correct.
It would make me look elsewhere if I were coming out of HS.
State dollars collected from taxes are REALLY transferred to state universities. Why should a state not be able to demand that none of these actual dollars be used to defray the costs associated with scholarships for professional athletes earning over X amount of dollars?
In my case, Iām not saying that the state doesnāt have the power to do this.
Iām just questioning whether the state SHOULD do thisā¦.ESPECIALLY if they want their flagship public to continue being competitive in the B1G.
It seems to me that only being able to offer either an academic scholarship OR NIL to a potential varsity athlete, as opposed to other B1G/P4 schools that will be able to offer BOTH, would put Illinois at a marked recruiting disadvantage compared to the rest of the P4.
Given that, I hope that this bill doesnāt pass, because I donāt see other states attempting to put their own P4 public Us at the same athletic recruiting disadvantageā¦.yet.
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You are making an assumption. Before the State of Illinois starts getting involved in NIL they should open the state books for everyone to see where peopleās taxes really go. It is so easy and convenient to charge people because you want to.