OT: More Proof UH Is Transforming to Traditional Campus

This is some BS made up statistic you keep trying to pull on us.

Speaking in third person, lol. this guy.

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False. They have a number of exceptions available, including one that allows students to live with a parent or guardian within 50 miles of campus. In case your geography skills are limited by your inability to discern fact from fiction, that would extend from UH to Conroe, Magnolia, Prairie View, Sealy, Needville, Angleton, Galveston, and Anahuac.

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At least my avatar isn’t wearing a mask!

Back in the 90’s and playing in the Dome during the Helton years, I remember we only needed a couple of shuttle buses to get on-campus students to the games.

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I lived on campus all four years (3 in the Quad, 1 in Cambridge Oaks) and was a rare out of state student. UH was not at all a traditional campus at the time (1995-1999), but I made my college experience a traditional one. I was in the honors college, I joined a sorority, I attended sporting events (even midnight madness with Clyde), I won homecoming queen, I made my experience as traditional as possible and I got an exceptional education. UH has such tremendous opportunity for all attendees, it really is what you choose to make of it. Onward and upward. I trust Khator.

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Bro, you’ve lost when you have to attack an avatar. lol.

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Bro, i already told you i expect the majority of posters to reject the vision of Dr. Renu Khator, which i fully support.

Your insults and name calling aren’t going to deter us, storm trooper

You might want to revert to UH1927 because you’re the one that tried to make fun of an avatar. lol. That’s some third grade weak sauce.

The only crisis I see is that this thread doesn’t want to die.

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Move it to the Satellite so that it can be labeled “politics” and locked up forever.

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Why not? Auburn has undergrad students in similar labs all the time, and friends from other large and midsize state institutions have told me similar things about their alma maters. For fields that demand a PhD (most natural sciences, psychology, a lot of engineering fields) undergraduate research opportunities are very much in demand, and students come out of High School with that stuff top-of-mind.

This is, I think, a much bigger issue than anything else that’s been brought up in this thread. To put it bluntly, our student support is trash, or at least was when I attended. Aside from the Bauer Golden Children, our career services were basically nonexistent when I graduated. The support I got from Career Services at Auburn as opposed to UH was night and day. Every time I interacted with UH’s administration, it was like pulling teeth to get them to just do their jobs. Schools like Penn State and ASU have better support for their online students than UH does for their on-campus population.

Prospective students absolutely notice when their application takes six months to review even though they have Assured Admission. It colors Alumni impressions of the school when your Advisor doesn’t actually know the requirements for your degree and tells you something blatantly false that costs you a semester, or the Bursar disburses your financial aid late every single semester. You can’t treat students like customers for four years and then hit the shocked pikachu face when they feel like the transaction is over post-graduation.

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Undergrad research opportunities are very much an amazing asset. We toured Johns Hopkins this spring and they were very proud of how active the undergrads were in research. I was really impressed and if you are in STEM, that is a big deal to have particpated in research during undergrad.

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Lots of these convos keeps ending up with the student that we accept. Nah, FOH with that. we can reach super duper traditional university looking stuff and still have the commuters come in. UH is in that unique spot where it will survive and thrive when the enrollment cliff fully kicks in and small college towns are no longer desirable or sustainable. We need all students. We’re in a metro for God’s sake.

UH students will come here for the research opportunities, but nothing that I’ve seen that is specific. I’ve worked in three labs. One of them was a majority undergrad lab and it’s just now bringing in grad students (Cullen/DoT). Another one was a mix of undergrads and grads stemming from the first lab (Cullen/CoE), and the third one is primarily graduate students with maybe one or two undergrads (Computer Science).

It’s not like ZOMG THE LAB THINGIE I WANNA JOIN IT kind of excitement, but “UH has research opportunities, I’ll take it!” excitement. Was vague with that statement. This is something I make sure to hammer into anyone that wants to be a pre-med. UH over anything. You can do all of this research and work while you’re a UH student, but only during summers as a UT/TAMU student. You’re five minutes away from the LARGEST MEDICAL CENTER IN THE WORLD.

There are students with assured admission, or are told that they have assured admission that get rejected. There are also students that didn’t get their FAFSA’s or transcripts or other admissions processed because of the offices here. It’s a turd sandwich. They know it, we know it, prospective students know it, and it drove them away.

I had a family member that choose an online out of state school over UH’s Hilton program because of the lack of support and response. This online OOS gave her an ‘admissions and advising coach’. UH didn’t even respond.

Their Hilton program. One of the top in the world. Abysmal.

I’m absolutely surprised my stuff is processed quickly every year (though this comes with me being in a PhD program and employed by the University).

I will never forget the IRB Approval process. They took a year and half to even respond. My professors and I were hounding on them and it lead me to give up a masters thesis and switch to a non-thesis track. UT had me in their system as soon as I completed training. TAMU’s is done within a week or so. UH??? Nope, we won’t acknowledge someone trying to work on an MS thesis even with professor support and everything. But let’s make sure we get the Honors Kids up and ready to go! (not knocking on them, but it left a sour taste in my mouth that I wasn’t even acknowledged).

It’s still trash. See above.

The NSM Career Services is a de facto Computer Science Hiring Department. Any career fair was expected to be CS and CS only. CS had their own career fair, and it was open to any CS student in the UH System, not specifically UH Main.

NSM took it over, to name it the “NSM + Computer Science Career Fair” and now it’s jam packed with a line and restricted to UH Main. If it were “NSM” nobody would have shown up. “Computer Science” is in that title so people could show up. Computer Science is in NSM. Make it make sense. HireNSM as a department though is doing a great job getting people out there though. The takeover was just WEIRD. The rest of the NSM students complain that there is nothing for them at these career fairs even though they stand outside waiting lol.


I can go on and on about how campus support is trash. Heck, there was an alum on here that was soured because the admissions department wouldn’t even send their kid a BROCHURE. Other schools were rolling out a red carpet TO GET THEM TO APPLY. UH? Nah.


THAT is the idea of a traditional campus. Actual good freakin services for student and alumni success. I know Virginia Tech alums that will call up their career services and have a job ready to go a week later.

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To add to this, I’ve been pretty aggressive about contrasting my experience at UH with my Auburn experience. Anyone wanna guess which one I had the “traditional, high-ROI” college experience at, living in the dorms for four years, and which one I did part-time while I worked a full-time job? Some might find the answer surprising.

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That’s how it is at my undergrad college, Case Western Reserve U.

Undergrads there often get involved in research.

It sounds like the academic and administrative sides are operating under the policies and procedures written by the UH Ticket Office. Unresponsive or forever late in responding.

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And as much as we all love athletics, it’s kinda gross that they have 20 million dollars worth of loans while the university is failing it’s students via it’s service centers (who are trying their best btw) and trying to replace them with chatbots (spending 1mil+ on them). Front doorstep back doorstep national TV and advertising impact whatever. It’s snake oil sales at this point. Department heads fighting for their students only to get shot down. Packing enrollment into departments without scale.

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The best thing alumni can do is to be hard working and successful in their career field. That elevates the status of the university as much as anything else to the most important group: employers.

Remember the unique primary mission statement of UH. It’s fundamentally different than private or Ivy League institutions.

Strive for excellence, but not by pricing people (not just teenagers) out of a higher education. We have plenty of institutions that are good at that.

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I know people who are in the current freshman class at UH who got in through assured admission. They applied and got accepted within 4 weeks last fall. Not sure where the 6 months timeframe is coming from.

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