The perception of city schools is rising as businesses realize that education + experience trumps education in the middle of nowhere. City schools offer a tremendous upside of real world experience. UH has moved up to #43 public school in the country for a reason. Go Coogs!
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Preach.
We can still be a great university as an Urban Research University. It has worked for Utah, UI-Chicago, Rutgers, Maryland, Pittsburgh, UCLA, Georgia Tech, USF, Minnesota, USC, South Carolina, and Miami. Its working for Georgia State, Temple and FIU. None of those schools are in âcollege townsâ but sit right smack dab in the middle of major urban centers; in some cases, like GSU, Minnesota, Pitt, Ga Tech and Temple, they are in downtown or a stoneâs throw away. Most of them are AAU and/or Carnegie R1 research institutions. I have worked with students from all of those colleges, and I would put them up against any UT, TAMU, UGA, UF, Bama or UTenn grad. That is what is important.
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It has gotten huge; has about 45K students. One of the biggest impetus for its growth has been that many suburban parents (cough, âWhiteâ cough) would rather their kids go their than GSU.
By the way, GSU is way, way, higher ranked than Kennesaw State in pretty much everything, and their students get way better job opportunities, especially from the business school, which is very highly ranked (J Mack Robinson School, look it up). But like I said, demographics!
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My Uncle was a Professor of Accounting at Georgia State.
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This take is flat-out wrong. UH is both a commuter and a dorm-based university, and that mix isnât a flawâitâs a strength, giving access and diversity A&Mâs bubble canât touch. Alumni loyalty and donations arenât dictated by dorm numbers or proximity; theyâre shaped by institutional culture, athletics, and long-term engagement, all of which UH is building. Assuming students with jobs or commutes are âdisconnectedâ is elitist, tone-deaf, and completely misreads what modern urban universities do best.
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As a Hobart man from one lake over, I can confirm that Cornell is a poser Ivy. We were the first in the Finger Lakes.
Lol
March on down the Field
And Never yield to Cornell
We will fight until the End
Hobartâs glory we will Defend
And when we get Through
Twont be for You
The VIC-TORE-EEEE
1, 2, 3, 4⊠GO BACK TO ITHACA
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I think increasing the number of accepted freshmen to around 8000 students, while keep the number of transfers flat, would gradually help.
Sigma Nu did a great job restoring their reputation
In what way?
I was a Sigma Nu at a school other than UH.
What about their reputation needed restoring?
Actually that take is 100% accurate and factually correct.
Most UT and aTm undergrads live within a few square mile radius of campus, UNLIKE UH.
Most UT and aTm undergrads âgo off to collegeâ UNLIKE UH. FAR fewer UT and aTm students live with their parents.
UNLIKE UH, the campuses at UT and aTm are, for all intents and purposes, the HOME for most UT and aTm undergrads for years.
And of course, donât get me started on the 4000 or so UH SUPER COMMUTERS from the College of Technology that have NO connection to campus life at UH. NOTHING comparable at UT or aTm.
And then people wonder why UH doesnât have the fan base, alumni donor rates, and school spirit that UT and aTm have.
Well of course, THATâs the reason.
The less time you spend on campusâŠ.the less your connection to and identification with a school will be.
And thatâs the result.
Hey listen. No one disputes that we have a significant on campus/dorm population.
No one disputes that UH has dorm
students and other students that live close to campus. But we have such close to campus students in far smaller percentages than UT and aTm.
AND we have a far larger super majority of NOT close to campus commuters. In my mind, we need to move away from that and develop more of a UCLA type model.
At UCLA, over 98% of freshmen live on campus, even without a housing mandate.
Is it any wonder they are considered to be Americaâs PREMIER urban public research university? Is it any wonder that they are now in the B1G at full shares?
Trust me, itâs no accident.
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âŠand we are in 2025.
Are you telling me the TSU curriculums are not good? We ought to find a way to âblendâ them in.
Serve the third ward? Yes that was true and more than rightfully soâŠthen.
Again, we are in 2025.
It has nothing to do with erasing history. It is about reuniting. By keeping this status quo we are promoting non inclusion.
TSU is an historically black college
UH is not
Yes, they will likely have different curriculums and academic culture.
TSU is a safe space designated for people who have been historically oppressed and continue to face systemic racism; they deserve the right to have their own safe space to get a degree
TSU was founded to duplicate UT hence the law school - once the powers that be saw that enrollment was ready to skyrocket and separate but equal was going to cost more than they thought they quickly shifted that narrative -
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As with all things âseparate but equal,â calling TSU equivalent to UT was always lip service, and there was never any intention to follow through on it.
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Back in the 2000s there was a pretty bad hazing incident that expelled the UH chapter. They were able to recolonize back in 2011 I think and got to get a house at Bayou again by 2015.
Iirc, the UT chapter is about to recolonize as well.
Nice. I teach a graduate level tax course at GSU. Great Biz school.
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Ha ha, not sure I can co-sign on Cornell as a fake Ivy, but it is definitely âgorgeousâ (only Western NYers know what that meansđ)
Hobart and Smith College is in a beautiful area. Lived in that area for several years. Geneva, NY has some of the best architecture in the state. Sadly a lot of the better properties have been acquired by millionaires from NYC.
Canadaigua is also beautiful.
Sigma Chi was suspended from UH for allegations of criminal hazing back in 2015 and their house on South McGregor was torn down in 2016. I think they may be back on campus.
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I get it Hobart man! 
two completely different schools. Hobart is liberal arts and Cornell is a technical giant. Case in point, you know how you think about Texas Childrenâs and MD Anderson? That is Cornell here in NYC - with a way better undergrad education.
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Actually, UH and TSU were created simultaneously
The bill passed in 1927 established Houston Junior College (for Whites) and Houston Colored Junior College (later known as Houston College for Negroes and then TSU).