OT: More Proof UH Is Transforming to Traditional Campus

Bro, his parents were Ok with him going out of state to attend the he Air Force Academy as a NON-commuter.

Given that, any claim that he was forced to commute by his parents doesn’t pass muster.

That dog doesn’t hunt.

It may bark, but it doesn’t hunt.

Still waiting to hear from the guy that was actually forced by their parents to commute more than 50 mi each way when closer options were available.

Obviously not all schools are equal, but let’s be real.

We aren’t talking about commuting to an Ivy League type school.

Lots of closer public options.

We are talking about a University Entertainment adjacent to campus.

One that is UH themed and a place that it a short walk…or shuttle from campus.

The rest of the city is nice but it’s not University exclusive

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My sister went to UHCL and got her degree in accounting… she does great with it…

But if you were going to study a BSEE you will damn sure drive right past UHCL to go to the Cullen COE…

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I wish we had something like that right across Scott Street in what is now an eyesore area.

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We all hung out at the Roxy lol

We already have a huge swath of land at Wheeler and Cullen that’s extremely close to five different dorms, Greek housing, and multiple student apartment complexes. Just build on top of lots 8/9 and give the Cameron Building a new space. This really seems like the most obvious call in the world to me.

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We should put a mixed use area there . Wouldn’t be any issues like Scott street.

We keep talking amongst ourselves without telling the people in charge about our ideas so we’re simply wasting time talking to ourselves with no results.

That spot would be perfect

I think we need someone who can talk to Khator about this and see what she thinks

Our problem comes diown to ONE problem…we still target majority low ROI students (commuters, transfers, those that have zero desire to feel connected to their school).

We need a 80/20 mix in favor of TRADITIONAL HIGH ROI Students!

Im going to give you a real life example of a school that threw their mission statement in the trash can and did a 180

Texas A&M

They once ONLY accepted white males

Not exactly a recipe for a diverse traditional coed campus.

Well…they WANTED to becone Traditional and atarted accepting women and minorities.

Fast forward to today, 50 years later, Texas A&M HAS university districts , like North Gate, that cater the TRADITIONAL STUDENTS the sought after.

In fact, their high ROI/ Low ROI breakdown is celebrated there.

They call the LOW ROI Students the TWO PERCENTERS.

So 98/2

Im just hoping we get to 80/20!

We have 80% HIGH ROI TRADITIONAL STUDENTS and a University District is a no brainer!

We are getting closer but are still a LOW ROI Majority Campus.

Plus, our graduation rates magically go up
We have more engaged students and alums

And surprise surprise become a Destination University

How do we get this info to dr Khator.

Generally speaking your correct, we need to admit students that are high rate of return to give back in some ways but not sure if we could achieve 80% but need to trend upward but again the people in charge need to know and address it.

If you really want a vibrant campus environment the solution isn’t “make Freshmen live on campus,” it’s “don’t let Freshmen have parking passes.” Cars are the real blight here. Nothing says “commuter school” like a gigantic surface parking lot that takes up like 1/3 of the campus.

If they wanna live off-campus and take the bus or the rail or carpool with their older sibling or whatever their freshman year, they’re more than welcome to do so, but coming to campus and immediately leaving as soon as your classes are over shouldn’t be a palatable option.

This is a retcon and not really applicable to us. There were women and non-corps students (and Black students, who were integrated at the same time) who wanted to go to A&M prior to these changes. UH, by contrast, isn’t exactly rejecting a bunch of “traditional, high-ROÍ” students.

We target an Outside- In approach

Our CURRENT reputation inside of Texas is killing us

We target TRADITIONAL STUDENTS in metros outside of state that would LOVE to go aeay to school in Texas…as a UT v2.0 option.

We only have to start promoting hard in a few metros

Pennsylvania
Pittsburgh
Philadelphia

Ohio
Columbus
Cleveland

North Carolina
Charlotte
Rakeigh

Maryland
Baltimore
DC

New Jersey
New York

Florida

Tennessee

Georgia

We flip the script…THEY may want to go away to school.

We are P4 now…so we do have some cache

Then, as our reputation improves, so does our quality in-state student

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