I agree. There’s probably not a significant qualitative difference among large state universities. What can UT do with finite accounting principles that UH cannot. UH’s focus should be on accelerating its pursuit of an AAU charter. That’s the gateway to greatness.
As someone that’s been on both sides of the fence, there absolutely is, at least once you get into Public Ivy tier. Those schools do a lot less handholding and expect a lot more depth of understanding and synthesis of course material. Think about how hard a course like OChem has to be to serve as a weed-out course at a school like Berkeley, where basically everyone there came from the top 5% or so of their High School class and has killed it in basically every single course they took before college. It’s just a straight up different world.
Do tenured faculty at Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio State actually teach anybody who is not upper class men? Employers increasingly prefer grads who are technically proficient and who have been well taught.
There are about a handful of public ivys and auburn is not one of them. I would say Berkeley, UCLA, UNC, Virginia, Michigan and MAYBE Texas.
Auburn is in fact not one of them. (I don’t really think highly of any aspect of Auburn except the student support.) My grad school isn’t listed in my avatar, mostly because I identify more with the program than the school itself.
(I’d add UIUC, Penn State, Washington, Wisconsin, and Georgia Tech to that list. And Texas is firmly in the club.)
Every school you added was outside of the USNWR top 30, but okay they’re good schools.
Eh, it’s a vibes-based list; if I had to name a numeric cutoff I’d put it around 40 and just exclude Florida and the non-flagship UCs specifically
Hmmmm……I dunno Bro.
My Master’s degree from Public Ivy Illinois was the easiest of my six degrees.
Rice students aren’t utilizing that…Houstonians are.
Your just trying to be argumentative, not have a discussion by picking on the least relevant word in the statement. Where has Khator said she wants to adjust/change admissions for more high ROI students? and how does she define high ROI student?
One the other side NO ONE has said only commuter students and low income either. Yet the argument goes on.
I am at the point that I do not care if UH improves academically anyway. Moving on.
I think that Rice. U. does own a majority of Rice Village though.
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They own all of it. Except for the i dont remember if its the middle portion or the end of the village before the apt
There are also a bunch of Rice Students that walk over there…especially the bars
They didn’t randomly name one of them THE OWL for no reason at all… Others have Rice flags all over the place.
Its a Rice themed district that also serves the city
Rice Village is probably one of the BEST examples of an adjacent mixed-use district within walking distance, from campus, and the IRONIC thing is that its in Houston, Texas a place where people here gave a thousand reaons why it can’t happen for the University of Houston.
Maybe it is all a class issue…higher class students (any race) refuse to attend the University of Houston and thus they don’t provide confidence by both developers AND the University that we can support such a district.
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Rice is an Ivy League adjacent school, and literally (not exaggerating) half their student population is from out of state, so they are forced to live near campus
You have to keep in mind that the way out of state kids look at Houston and the way Houston-born people look at Houston are different. Out of state kids are not going to live in Conroe or Cypress or Katy to attend Rice. They will live in Houston proper, inside the loop.
Houston is simply not academically competitive enough to get out of state kids, because those kids go to UT.
And…your point.
Many large State Public schools have a University District adjacent to campus.
Many with half of our student body.
If you want more out of state TRADITIONAL STUDENTS- that’s what ive been screaming for ever.
That will fix most of our problems
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I think you’re overestimating how much a “university district” will change UH. It’s completely ignoring the logistical obstacles that UH has had for decades and continues to have.
As I’ve said before, all public schools in Texas share the same pool of high school grads.
UH is always going to be 90%+ Texas kids. That’s never going to change, and it doesn’t need to nor is it a bad thing because that’s just how big Texas is.
That being said - you can’t just create “traditional students” out of thin air…
You essentially have tiers:
- Private School kids (not our path)
- UT / A&M / Texas Tech kids (who most UH alums compare themselves to academically)
- UH - increasingly competitive academically, but many students are commuting from suburbs to save money while getting a competitive degree
- SFA / UTSA / Texas State kids (not so great academically but want the college experience)
- If UH wants to remain academically competitive while transforming into a “traditional campus culture”, then it would essentially have to steal the pool of students that would otherwise attend UT, A&M or Texas Tech → thus one of those schools would slowly start becoming half traditional half commuter like UH
- Or, you can start going after Tier 4 students at the expense of academic competitiveness…
Again, you can’t just magically create an entire demographic of kids out of thin air when factoring the overall demographic of Texas/Houston
Sure you can.
I remind you once again that Texas A&M, at our current age, had virtually ZERO women on campus.
They were an all white male specialty University wirh a specific mission that was as far from a diverse Co-Ed Traditional Campus as you can get.
Basically wite males cos playing as the military
They did a 180 on their mission and BECAME a Traditional CoEd University.
Today, Women proudly admit to being Aggies…and they proudly mention going to the University Districts off of Campus…like Northgate.
On UH, the #1 thing holding back our academic rankings is 4 year graduation rates.
Accepting MORE Out of State TRADITIONAL studehts will help our 4 year graduation rate which, in turn, helps our rankings and then in-state reputation which leads to more in-state Traditional Student interest which leads to more supporting amenities like a University District
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You say UH should accept more out of state kids as if there are thousands of out of state kids begging for admission at UH lol
Texas A&M is not an inner city school.
Comparing UH to A&M is utterly pointless.
UH is really an anomaly amongst the entire country
That take is wrong because UH already attracts high-achieving students across income levels, developers are actively investing around campus, and growth challenges are tied to city planning and infrastructure — not “class.”
Many UH kids are coming from suburbs outside the beltway - but according to Cullen, close friend of Renu Khator and self-identified millionaire, we should be targeting the children of elites!
Why aren’t the Bush’s or Clinton’s sending their kids to UH instead of Harvard? It’s a mystery perhaps we will never find out