OT: More Proof UH Is Transforming to Traditional Campus

It’s dependent on the school, but Katy was initially a white flight situation.

Every suburban school district began as white flight.

It’s not a linear progression. As social norms have changed along with the removal of redlining, etc… suburban districts got more diverse.

That doesn’t mean HISD in its current state is not longer a victim of white flight

If HISD becomes good again (which really means becomes white again), then what’s stopping people from moving there from the suburbs if it’s closer to the city?

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Good riddance lol

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Houston has been an economic flight for the last 50 some odd years. If you can afford it, you can live there. This is how Katy and cypress and the woodlands works. Lots of diversity.

With Houston, what exactly is offered in the city that you cannot do or get in the big suburban areas? Katy, pearland. Cypress, clear lake, humble, king wood, woodlands, they are all mid size metropolitan areas.

Walkability and bikeability and living in more urban neighborhoods than suburbs, but it’s not for everyone…most Houstonians don’t walk LULZ

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I get the walkability and bikability for the 4 days a year that it makes sense wether and humidity wise, but who wants to walk to the store sweaty or Nike to work to take a shower when you get there?

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A lot of us still WFH, also if you are inside the loop, you are in the middle from every suburb, so it’s easier to visit friends and family, also property/real estate reasons

It’s nice. However, if you have kids, you run the risk of having to send them to HISD, or worse, Aldine ISD.

If you don’t have kids, and have a good paying white-collar job, the inner loop is for you.

I got tired of the constant construction, traffic, and planes/helicopter noises lol.

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Agreed, but remember, most people can’t afford to just send their kids to private schools.

I couldn’t imagine sending them to HISD or Aldine ISD.

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My kid will be going to public school, he’ll be ok, he has a strong village, I came out just fine

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That’s the same poster. He’ll probably make another new user with a new name and pretend it’s not him.

Hello!

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There are also a ton of charter and magnet schools, some of which are very good. I’d send my theoretical kid to YES Prep in a heartbeat, even over suburban public schools.

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UH1927/Cullen keeps being a bad boy but I’m sure he will be resurrected and we will know. His style is so obvious.

Let me list a few things

  • Way better food
  • Way better public transportation. When people say “Houston has bad public transportation” they mean there’s no PT in the burbs. The bus and rail system in the loop is decent - good depending on where you live.
  • Way better walkability
  • Better bike-ability
  • More programming for physical and outdoor activities
  • Better access to historic buildings/neighborhoods
  • Plethora of museums
  • On average a more active lifestyle
  • More events and closer proximity to said events
  • Saving days - weeks - months of your life by not commuting to work or stores
  • Dealing with traffic, people don’t know how big of a change this is because they never lived without it. Legit stopped getting random grey hairs after cutting drive time
  • Better Parks
  • Nightlife/Dining/Bar scene is unmatched
  • For me personally, dating scene. Way harder to date in Katy from what I’ve found.
  • Better Diversity. Yes Katy and some of the burbs are pretty diverse, but inside it’s just unmatched. Literally all walks of life type of vibe
  • The ability to wake up and find some random thing happening outside your doorstep. This is more of a personal thing, but I can walk/take PT and find some random event going on
  • More connected communities

I can list more, but the point has been given. Can’t talk about schools, but @T-Moar has mentioned there’s a few magnets schools that beat the suburban schools.

Weirdly enough, this is the same thing I hear from people not coming to Football games. Almost like it’s a cultural thing. Why go to football games when weather only allows it for 4 days out of the year?

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Lots of prior responses, but ultimately for me it is culture.

Museum district, zoo, Theater district, pro sports teams (for others), coffee shop open past 9pm. Nothing in the suburbs really compares to the cultural advantage of a large city center.

Both are fine options and have pros and cons - Suburbs are fine for a regimented lifestyle with kids sports and schools in the center, then having regular dinners out and back home by 9 or 10.

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I get what you are saying about all those things, but these little metropolitan suburbs are not going to reverse course and head back to cities. I was addressing a post about how eventually the sprawl will end and people will move back, just don’t see evidence of this in any of the old cities that are dying but still have a thriving metropolitan population. I see your list as great things to visit, but I personally don’t go to museums or restaurants everyday. But I get why people still live there. I really understand younger non child bearing folks living there.

Yeah. Take Cleveland.

From WWII to today, it went from being the fourth largest city in the USA at that time to not even making the Top 25 in 2026.

Yet its metro area and market are well over 2 million.

Why?

Flight to the suburbs.

And guess what?

Those that flew….never flew back!

That said, that flight was a mostly white flight.

Houston suburbs like Katy, as we have pointed out, are every bit as diverse as Houston. It’s not a “White Flight.” It’s a multicultural/multiracial/multi-ethnic flight.

Only the Woodlands is an outlier in that regard.

so far. 80 years is the blink of an eye, historically. Trends change across generations.

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People that moved out are not moving back. The one thing Houston’s population has is land. It is the 9th largest city landeise. No other major city is in the top ten of land. LA shows up in the top 20 but has 200 less square miles than Houston. Houston is half the size (city limits) of Rhode Island.

St. Louis had 772 k in 1920 with a metro of about 859 k; in 2020 it was 280 k with a metro of 2.8 M.

Baltimore had 734 k in 1920 with a metro of about 753 k; in 2020 it was 585 k with 2.8 M metro.

Pittsburgh had 588 k in 1920 with a metro of about 775 k; in 2020 it was 302 k with 2.4 M metro.

Cleveland had 797 k in 1920 with a metro of about 834 k; in 2020 it was 372 k with 2.1 M metro.

Detroit had 993 k in 1920 with a metro of about 1.1 M; in 2020 it was 639 k with 4.3 M metro.

Cincinnati had 401 k in 1920 with a metro of about 470 k; in 2020 it was 303 k with 2.2 M metro.