Or TX Tech, Arkansas, OU, LSU, Auburn, OK State as backups. Auburn, OU and to a bit lesser extent Arkansas are solid backups. Tech and OK State are “where all my friends go.” Less expensive and easier admit than UH.
They’ve been 6% for a while.
The programs it helps actually are UT-D, UT-A and UTSA because they have a deferral program whereby if you get “capped” for Austin, you get admitted to a regional and then get guaranteed admittance into Austin if you meet certain criteria after 1 or 2 years. MANY don’t make the requirements and end up staying at Arlington and Essay.
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My understanding is that there is a state law that says every public university must have at least 75 percent of its admitted freshman class based on class rank.
So, UT has to get permission to lower it to 5 percent and prove that they can meet this 75 percent requirement.
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Replace UTD with UTSA. The Comets don’t participate. It creates a group of students who are rather smart but don’t care about the directional school and don’t get involved.
UT has the 75% rule and set it up to increase diversity. A&M surely has over 75% as top quarter but only around 60% as top 10%.
The CAP program is a joke. I had a couple of friends that went to UTSA that got capped , but it only grants you automatic admission to the Liberal Arts College.
CAPS get treated the same as any external transfer for their competitive schools like Business/Engineering
Actually one of those friends I mentioned ended up transferring to UH (Bauer)
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For what it’s worth, the top 5% rule works the same way. You’re only guaranteed admission to the university, not the department you apply to. A handful of departments at UT are ivy-level competitive.
Also, as an aside, it really feels lately like the UT System has designs on molding itself in the University of California’s image. Between the UTSA/UTHSA merger, lowering the admissions threshold, and the anecdotal observation that I’ve seen folks referring to the academic side as UT-Austin a lot lately, it sounds like they’re really trying to elevate some of their other schools. And if that’s true, we’re more scroomed as a University than we’ve ever been.
How is UH screwed
As of right now (or really 6 months ago) it was a relatively easy sell to the legislature that Texas needs a third AAU-level research university, and UH, with more research output than any other university in the state besides UT and TAMU, seemed like the obvious call. But with UT throwing more resources at UTSA, they’ve already leapfrogged us there. If the UTS buys UTSA’s way into the AAU, and possibly others (I suspect UTD is next), we suddenly have to argue that the State of Texas needs four or five AAU-level public universities, which is going to be a much harder sell.
(All of this goes for Tech, too, and probably even moreso. But this isn’t a Tech board.)
Although this seems like a stretch, let them focus on that instead of UT-Houston…
It’s possible, but while UTHSC is a boost to their graduate research, it’s not really a boost to their undergraduate rankings which still matters to AAU membership
Actually, it would’ve been wiser to merge UTD with UTSW because UTD is ranked higher than UTSA.
I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch; the UTS has triple the endowment of the University of California. The only reason it hasn’t happened yet is because there’s been no real desire on their part to make it happen.
The AAU cares much more about research output than anything else, and besides, the increase in research output that UTSA is about to see is inevitably going to have knock-on effects at the undergrad level.
I don’t disagree with you regarding UTSW/UTD, but I suspect that UTSW would have pushed back substantially on that, whereas UTHSC either was less opposed or had less weight to throw around and push back. I get the sense this is a trial balloon, and if it works, UTSW x UTD is coming next.
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I’m sure politics are involved when it comes to AAU membership too
If Big Ten wants a Texas school, they’ll make sure that they get a Texas school in the AAU if it fits their interests
In doubt it’s gonna be UTSA anytime soon though
I share T-Moar’s concern here.
UTSA’s merger moved them ahead of us to #3 in research in the state, and gave them a big lead on us in BIOMEDICAL research, the type of research that the AAU prefers the most.
We should have state merge UTH-Health with UH system. Just kidding but one can dream.
Ok another note UH system should go under UT system and ask for 1/3 of the PUF. Also merge the Houston health school under UH banner. A&M would be super pissed but who cares about them.
I think this is neutral to UH. What I’m observing is local kids with UH-grad parents are being encouraged to pick a school out of the city to get that “college experience.” I guess until UH mandates freshmen live on campus UH will still be perceived as a commuter school - especially by alumni that likely were commuter students.
Meanwhile, our fearless leader…
https://x.com/uhpres/status/1836862792839647425?s=61&t=bREFZn93Z8FAy7iN4q858w
I wouldn’t be shocked if the endgame at this point does involve UH merging into the UT system for something like that. In fact, if I were James Milliken, that would be my long-term plan. We obviously won’t get 1/3 of the PUF, but if they offer us UTHSC Houston on the condition that we join their system, that would be hard to say no to.
You raise two different ideas and neither has anything to do with the other.
In the people I know, we didn’t encourage our kids to attend other schools. In my case I even encouraged my oldest to go to UH but he wanted to get out of this city.
That has absolutely nothing to do with beds on the UH campus.
Your comment is anecdotal and so is mine. They both can be true.
UH will always be viewed as a commuter school, and thus not the traditional college experience, until Freshmen are mandated to live on campus. Even then it may not ever shake the label.
I only see UH called a commuter school by some people on Coogfans.
Except that your correlation between where kids of uh grads go and beds on campus has nothing to do with each other.