Population growth

That’s a reason why schools like MIT, Emory, California Institute of Technology etc exist.

Many P4s have enrollments that are 75% or 66% the size of UH’s yet have no problem attracting Traditional students.

I think we have so many commuter students it spoils the nucleus of a traditional campus.

But on the flip side, the one school doing things right is UCF…they have a huge student enrollment, are a younger “non flagship” city school yet have found a way to create a traditional college atmosphere.

Quite impressive, actually

We have the history, location, and starter infrastructure to BE a traditional campuses but for whatever reason…we are not

UCF united their leadership, fans, students, alums under the 2017 bogus “national” championship.

UH was still begging the fans to watch a top 5 team at Fertitta during our AAC years or a top 10 team at TDECU under the Herman years.

Again, how big is Orlando compared to Houston. Its funny how you cherry pick to support your idea.

Here’s UH’s demographic. UH gives Houston area kids a chance at a top notch University. That’s awesome. Too bad you only see it as a negative.

BTW I’d love for you to go to a UH graduation ceremony and tell them they suck because they commuted to UH or didn’t go to a football game and that their school is mediocre.

50% would be incorrect ; probably more like 26% of undergrads. It would not be an all at once thing, but gradually ween the school off the large number of part timers. Setup admissions to gradually lower the number accepted and increase the number of full time.

Of course we’ve had this discussion many times, and there are some baked in assumptions that
may or may not be true. Surveys should be done by the athletic department to help them understand who their customers are , and why they don’t attend, and what could get them engaged. Survey all on campus full time, full time commuters, part time evening students and capture their personal data too. We’ve said for a long time more beds on campus was key, but in what year should we start to see a measureable improvement for the more beds crowd ?

So what. They got their degrees and are all the better for it. You judging them because of football attendance. People like you are probably why they don’t come to football games. Because you look down on them from your high horse. Lowly commuters! Part Timers! Content with mediocrity! Those are your words.

Two completely different arguments.

Nobody is even talking about your narcissistic take.

Football attendance? I listed 100 other things that makes a student a high ROI student

You keep posting reading comprehension. Physician heal thy self.

You belong in an insane asylum…the rest of us get the subject we are discussing

Going personal, you’ve lost the debate.

I’m rubber you’re glue!

Yes…we have MULTIPLE satellite campuses already built for their needs

Tilman didn’t invest 100s of millions of his OWN money to settle for mediocrity

No…others have pointed your lack of reading comprehension skills multiple times already

So you admit you think a UH degree is mediocre. Got it.

Yormark needs to work with ESPN/FOX to get Miami, FSU and Clemson in the Big 12 so we can actually be the Power 3 conference

If the Power 2 conferences continue to separate themselves from Big 12, then we are screwed in the long term which will affect UH football attendance

I literally posted I attended UH BECAUSE of the high quality degree offered.

You have serious reading comprehension issues

Ok, 26% sounds fair. I did not research closely. I am just trying to understand how much change to the campus those that want the all traditional students expect to happen.

I guess I did get your position wrong. I did not think you were on the same side as 1927.

But if a student is not capable of going full time or spending large amounts of money for private, then they are not allowed to get a good engineering degree? I am assuming students that did not get into Rice also probably not able to get into MIT, Emory, Cal Tech, etc…

I personally believe if there is a low income student that got decent grades in high school and can get into UH, they should be allowed to get a good education, not be told they are not worthy of being engineers or attending a good school. People should be allowed to move up in the financial levels of society.

Sounds like you are just telling them to “stay in their rightful place” which I abhor strongly as that is egotistical nonsense.

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That answers the question of campus size. good.

You did not answer question A. Do part time or low income students not deserve teh same quality of education?

Education was never in Question in our conversation here…The topic is Lifelong Connection to the University and how to improve that.

The point your are categorically refusing to understand is its not JUST about the degree. In the long run the degree is one of the least important aspects of college. I know a degree from Rice, tu and tamu are more “valuable”,so what? I wanted to get a degree from UH. Same reason my daughter is planning on going to Colorado State and not TAMU, TTU or LSU. the overall experience is just as important.