Only because it scared the crap out of consumers. Not the flex you think it is. Bragging the economy is worse
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Adding costs leads to inflation. Tariffs are added costs.
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U.S. economy sizzles in Q3, defying slowdown fearsThe U.S. economy grew at an annual rate of 2.7% in Q3 2025, according to a median forecast from the U.S. Department of the Treasury. This represents an acceleration from the previous quarter, driven by strong consumer spending and government spending, while real GDP was up 1.6% for the year as of the second quarter.
Growth Rate: The median forecast for Q3 2025 GDP growth was 2.7% at an annual rate.
Key Drivers: The growth was supported by consumer spending, particularly on goods and services, and an increase in federal government spending, especially on defense.
Inflation: The PCE price index is expected to have risen 1.5% in Q3, a figure below the Federal Reserveās 2% target and a sharp decrease from Q2.
Other Measures: The real gross domestic income (GDI) increased by 2.2% in the third quarter.
Corporate Profits: Profits from current production decreased by $10.2 billion in the third quarter, a reversal from a $132.5 billion increase in the second quarter.
I never said it was worse. That was the analysis piece that said GDP decline would result in inflation decline. So far, we have solid GDP and minimum inflation pressure.
Seems like a contradiction
You have to understand, everyoneās opinion, unfortunately, is colored by their politics.
Iām close to retiring. Iām trying to balance the climb in the stock market with a defensive position. I keep looking for something that could cause a decline. Is it overheated? In some ways, yes. Overall as Morgan Stanleyās Wilson said, itās more of a secular market and you have to pick your spots.
Still not good bc people simply stop buying then less wage growth and hiring.
Tariffs can be good if targeted and only a few implemented each yr or so longterm vs a bunch at once.
I donāt believe the economy is better right now. Hope it gets better for the good of all.
Outback restaurant by my house was packed yrs ago and just closed bc the people eating there canāt pay $80 etc for 2.
Not being political and hope it turns around bc I donāt care who is running the country but wish the best regardless.
Starbucks is struggling bc coffee prices spiked bc of tariffs on South American countries.
Somebody didnāt think all this thru
We sometimes see people hereon denying facts because facts do not support their preferred political party.
Many, many prices are going down due to deflation in China. Look it up. Lots of business articles on that topic.
Domestic Energy production is going up and we will see Nuclear added to the mix in a few years.
Good news. Not political. Good for everyone.
Stock market is great but itās not reflective of the overall economy in wage growth and hiring. Itās a contradiction of sorts.
Yes we do.
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Yeah, you canāt have it both ways.
Just calculated my own experiences buying a Home.
First home bought in 1974. Most recent purchase in 2025.
Calculated price per square foot for each one.
My TI financial calculator says my rate of change has been 4.26%.
I recently received a large order for custom equipment that I quoted in January. The only way to keep the price the same was to drop features previously included. If those features were kept, the price would be 6% higher than what I quoted then.
Price is the same now but this is still an example of tariff related inflation.
If I hadnāt included those features back in January my price would have been lower in January and higher now or they would have to drop even more features.
President ** has created over half a million new jobs since he took office ā all of them coming in the private sector. Employment for native-born Americans has grown by 2.4+ million since January, accounting for ALL net job gains in President ** ās second term
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You looking long term or short term effect ?
Our tariffs change by the week it seems.
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First 10 months of 2025: ~500K
Last 10 months of 2024: ~1.75M
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I never like it when any president claims they created jobs.
They may create an environment that positively influences job creation. But they donāt create jobs. At least not like they claim.
Letās have $50 coffee, you know, to help the economy.
Tariffs will result in job loss, not gain.
The idea that high protective tariffs produce net job growth has been disproven too many times to even write about.
I wish the late, great Prof. Roy Ruffin, expert on international trade and one of my mentors, were still alive to speak on this. He has to be turning over in his grave right now.
ā¦and you believe these so called experts? Were they the same ones that predicted a crash with POTUS imposing tariffs?
We should all be concerned about why some wanted to shut down the government. Since the affordable care act was imposed on all of us my insurance has gone up over 140%. This is the real crisis for many. While the affordable care act was imposed on all of us the same Washington D.C. ding dongs knew that these so called subsidies would expire at a certain date or certain dates. Speak about taking us for losers. Now it is starring us in the face. That is not even going to the forbidden zone but pure exploitation of a population. These insurance companies are licking their chops by how much more revenue they are making. All of this at the detriment of everyone. The next few months present a great opportunity for this to be fixed once and for all. Any of these ding dongs getting paid off by insurance lobbyists ought to be reported. This is not a case of fair business but it is a case of pure corruption.