The other side of Wind Energy no one talks about

The air is greener in Pasadeener. :face_vomiting:

Edit: to add context, this isn’t original. Growing up in Jacinto City in the 60s, if we needed a store other than Minimax and Weiners, we had to go through the Washburn tunnel to Pasadena. As you emerged from the tunnel, there was a sign that said ā€œThe grass is greener in Pasadenaā€. Of course some wag would frequently paint over grass with air. A source of perpetual humor for us juveniles (and many adults).

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I love how fossil fuel activist quickly jump on any negative press on renewable energy while ignoring the decades of damage caused by fossil fuels

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It’s amusing that there’s a concerted effort by some to call it ā€œpollutionā€ to make it seem the same as nuclear waste or an oil spill. :laughing:

It’s even funnier that the AG is making a big show of going after these deadbeats while ignoring the perpetrators of a true environmental disaster in west Texas.

But I’m all for going after the illegal dumpers so that land can be restored to its previous best use of being a drill pipe yard. :slightly_smiling_face: Seriously, though, this case also points out how ineffective Texas is at enforcing permitting requirements across the board. It should never have gotten to this point.

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Don’t forget that Ol Leon is improperly dumping toxic sludge waste from his Star City into bodies of water down in South Texas. But that pales in comparison to some blades stacked up killing the grass underneath. The horror.

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When you and others do not agree with a poster’s opinion you immediately throw the ever so predictable:

You really do not want an honest dialogue. Have some self awareness and respect other poster’s opinion.
What you just did nrgcoog is illustrate my point…AGAIN.

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You do the same kind of stuff.

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This thread is proof positive that some people do not understand, or are willfully ignorant about, the difference between a mountain and a mole hill.

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Him?

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that wind mill dumping is really not an issue, solar and electric car batteries will be a much bigger problem.

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Can’t be any worse than the oil and coal companies clean up sites

There was a time when lead acid car battery disposal was a problem too.
I think recycling of EV batteries will not be a big problem but a big opportunity.

Remember also old car tires were a recycling issue too at one time.

AI summary of lead acid batteries

Early efforts were spurred by resource scarcity, evolving from indiscriminate disposal to organized reclamation

Key Historical Developments in Battery Recycling:

  • 1930s-1940s: Manufacturers recognized the value of lead, and wartime scarcity formalized recycling efforts.
  • 1960s: The Battery Council International (BCI) was founded, establishing formal recycling protocols.
  • 1980s-1990s: Environmental regulations, such as the Mercury-Containing and Rechargeable Battery Management Act of 1996 in the US, boosted recycling rates by making them legally mandated.
  • Modern Day: Lead-acid batteries have achieved a nearly 99% recycling rate, making them one of the most successfully recycled consumer products.

[image]Battery Council International (BCI) +2

Today, the industry uses a ā€œclosed-loopā€ system where old batteries are collected by retailers (like AutoZone or Costco) and returned to manufacturers (like Clarios or East Penn) to be reprocessed into new batteries.

Yeah they have facilities now that get over 95% of the raw materials from batteries in the recycling process.

Given the cost of EV battery versus a 12 volt battery in ice cars it will be much easier to justify investment in those recycling centers as EVS become more prominent.

Clean up given 550 days to be completed.

https://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/sweetwater/state-of-texas-forces-clean-up-of-wind-turbine-dumping-ground-in-sweetwater-bans-new-shipments/

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Now if they could just do the same for the Zombiewells.

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No kidding. Imagine if the State took that problem as seriously as stacked-up turbine blades.

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Estimates out there of 100,000 orphaned wells… feds to cover costs.

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It’s always more about whose ox is being gored and the message they want to present and less about risk mitigation and future generations.

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Lots of talk with little action, imo. Oh, the state will get some cleaned up and make a big deal about it, but they aren’t addressing the worst ones, and they aren’t making a big dent in the overall problem. There are literal lakes being formed by leaking wells, and these things are killing everything around them. It’s only a matter of time before aquifers for drinking water are ruined by these same wells.

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And we’re typically paying for it rather than the oil companies.

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