UH Greek Life

Nope. Not my scene.

That graph sums it up, about 4% of UH will actually end up supporting the University, it would be interesting to ask Mike Pede, what the actual numbers are 5-10 years after graduation.
Pretty much equals the Greek life numbers, but sororities are actually where the support and $$ come from. My buddy spent $30K/year for sorority dues and activities for one daughter at OU and he had two girls there.

I don’t think parents should push their kids to go to UH because they went there. If it’s a good fit for the student, great. But even kids from the same family have different wants when it comes to school. My daughter didn’t want to go to a big college.

Where our Greek life may not be as strong as other schools, UH’s location providing significant opportunities for real life experience is a strength. I think for the next generation, UH and other large city schools will be perceived more favorably due to this factor. We can offer so much more than a traditional rural school. We may still grow a traditional student life.

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And we never were lone star college. Why do people keep saying we are equivalent to a community college.

Texas A&M’s engineering program is a large feeder into the oil and gas industry, which has been dominated by A&M especially during the shale boom. UT has a presence in oil and gas too, but A&M is the broader feeder.

Also, I’m not just talking about petroleum engineering. Even mechanical engineering and industrial engineering feed into oil and gas firms.

Outside of that, I would place A&M and UH at about equal for engineering.

UT has a much wider national presence in engineering where they place more kids in non-O&G engineering fields. UT will likely dominate this space.

UH’s growth is going to largely rely on whatever the city of Houston provides in terms of employment, with perhaps a small number of kids being able to get employment outside of the city/state.

I’m a Bauer grad (class of ‘18), and even I can tell you how much Bauer has grown even since when I graduated. They are sending kids to Wall Street every year now, whereas my graduating class sent its first graduate to work at Morgan Stanley in the school’s history.

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Because UH has relied HEAVILY on community college transfers over the last few decades.

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Thanks to all our refineries and chemical plants, I am assuming (someone correct me if I’m wrong), that UH is a way bigger local feeder to Chemical Engineering employers than either UT or aTm.

Right?

I think over the next century “Traditional” schools are going to move more in UH’s direction than we will in theirs. UT is basically UH++ at this point, in a way that absolutely wasn’t true 50 or even 30 years ago. Students are gonna do some math, collectively, and realizing that dropping out of the workforce for 4+ years to take on six-figure debt ain’t close to worth it, and we’re already seeing this in the data: small private schools (the ones most deeply tied to the “traditional” model) are failing hard.

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I don’t have the stats on that, but i would assume the answer is no.

Both A&M and UT most likely dominate the entire energy vertical, but that’s because both schools have much more financial resources to hire and retain the best professors etc.

Also, there are out of state graduates that probably get a share of the pie.

A&M 100% dominates the upstream/drilling space, but I would assume UT and A&M both have a high volume of engineers in the refining/chemicals space. UH is likely scattered in both verticals albeit growing its presence.

Also, any industry that sells products to service the oil industry is dominated by A&M

Ultimately, no industry can exist without capital, and as long as Bauer continues to grow its brand, naturally, the other programs will grow too.

As the upstream oil and gas space consolidates more and more, the city of Houston will have to continue diversifying its economy. Whether it’s renewable energy, medicine, tech, or anything, UH has to jump into those growing industries

Gang,

Here’s a really kooky idea.

Perhaps the university could build each of its eight extant “general” social fraternities its own “mini-dorm” type house in an area such as the one another poster designated above.

None would share a wall with another, but each would be equal in size; think of each as a larger than normal town home with a few feet of space in between.

Each would have a kitchen good enough to provide significant food prep.

Each would have a lounge.

Each would have some sort of “chapter” or room for meetings or initiations/rituals.

And each would have room for perhaps 20-30 active boarders.

Does that seem like an impossibility or not?

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Honestly who knows what anything will look like in the next 20 years let alone 100

The value of college athletics is rising exponentially (at least for the power conferences), but the value of college degrees themselves are definitely not increasing at the same rate which is concerning.

I think a college degree is just a filter in the modern job market. It lets companies know that they are hiring someone who accomplished a task that is universally accepted as a challenging accomplishment while also doing so in a timely manner.

Small private schools, especially the elites, have so much endowment that I doubt they will flat out fail, and those schools have enough wealthy students to offset the cost of financial aid for the less wealthier students

While what you say is true, many Gen Z don’t plan on having any kids at all. So college enrollment will probably shrink.

I mean, yeah, once you exclude Petroleum and Chemical and Aerospace and Industrial and Mechanical Engineering, and discount the top employers for each program, A&M’s engineering programs aren’t very good at all, I bet.

There’s a reason (well, multiple) that I didn’t compare A&M with UT; on a field-by-field basis, those two are pretty competitive with each other. I don’t wanna split that hair. Both are excellent, and both are well ahead of UH. That goes for most other in-demand fields, too.

Well for one I don’t think UT is miles of ahead of A&M. I think UT is higher ranked for sure, but that’s not to completely downgrade A&M. I think they’re worth comparison depending on industry

I dig the sarcasm, but my point is that A&M and UH would probably serve equally if you remove the oil and gas vertical.

I’m sure A&M’s financial resources largely comes from the oil and gas industry, but as I’ve said, the caveat here is that the oil and gas industry is slowly in decline especially in the upstream space.

There are also many companies in Houston that hire mechanical engineers from A&M that make/sell products to service the oil and gas industry not directly related to onsite drilling operations

I’m not taking away A&M’s placements in other fields, but even when it comes to engineering like Aerospace, A&M is competing with Ivy League schools and other high ranked public schools outside of the state of Texas. Ivy League graduates are not likely to go into oil and gas

Both an A&M and UH graduate would probably have the same opportunities to get an aerospace engineering job assuming they are like for like in GPA, etc., but A&M’s ties to oil and gas get leveraged into the entire engineering program for funding etc

They are absolutely about equal:

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That’s the point
We are a 100 year old University and have not produced an Environment that leads to a large % of legacy students.

I am one but that had more to do with me than the engraved Houston Culture tradition in my family.

OK, so aTm, UT, Tech, and UH are all in the Top Ten.

FIGURES!!!

There are only 24 total ABET-accredited Petroleum Engineering programs in the US, though, so top-10 is barely top-half.

Man, UH salaries so much lower on this. Maybe due to more undergrad than grad?

I’ve posted this before, but still applicable. You can’t force your children to go where they don’t want to, but you can help them love the Coogs. My son started going to UH games at five and became a life long fan. He went away to school for multiple reasons; finances, wanting to continue sports, and just to be on his own.

He is now back in town and we share season tickets in multiple sports. He is a much better fan than many UH graduates.

I feel I did my job as a parent. :sunglasses:

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