“Specious” has only been used 11 times in the last five years on this board. I commend you for your timing.
Do you have kids? Are they college aged or close?
Yes, but not close to college age
Hopefully your kids go Greek at UH and live on campus.
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Will make a nice follow-up story to so so many threads someday
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They would be third generation legacies but honestly, i need to see the University of Houston turn that corner by then
The Centennial Project is a start but we need more college supporting development around campus and more students staying on campus, after classes.
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Wait a damn minute… for years you’ve launched screed after screed about how Coogs need to ensure that kids of Coogs go to UH and now you’re saying “YOU need to see something…” when it comes to your own?!?
Bruh…
Ain’t no way…
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UH has made great strides promoting on campus life. I hope it continues
Idk maybe my experience was different.
I personally didn’t see any value of joining a fraternity during my time at UH, which was during the “golden years” of 2014-2018.
I got my F500 internship from being in a business organization, which began with an on-campus networking/recruiting event. My performance during my internship thus lended to a full time offer once I graduated.
I’m merely speaking to Greek life at UH and not other campuses.
I guess I just don’t really see the value of hiring someone solely on having the same Greek letters on your rap sheet, but I completely understand if fraternity brothers of the same school helped each other get jobs informally through that connection.
The company I started at is very formal in recruiting with HR and typically hires entry level via prior interns of the company or other companies within the same industry.
As far as the social aspect of Greek Life, I knew friends from high school that joined fraternities at UH, although both of their fraternities got suspended for hazing (Sigma Chi Pike), so I was able to go to their parties throughout the year with ease. However, I know this would be impossible at say an SEC school. (Not to sound bro-ey, but even if I alcohol or girls i still couldn’t get into to my Aggie sig chi friend’s parties outside of rush week)
I guess the lifelong thing could be there, but I don’t see how you need a fraternity to have life long friends. I still believe fraternities in SEC schools or elite schools have a socioeconomic/racial element even if it’s not directly prejudiced, but even with that said, that type of dynamic doesn’t really exist at UH except for a small portion, which is also why UH’s Greek life hasn’t sustained itself consistently like other schools
I honestly don’t think this can happen unless the city of Houston itself supports this dynamic (which they most likely won’t because Third Ward is a residential community and not a college-supported community)
Like I’ve said before, many of the commuters at UH are commuting from suburbs at the very minimum, 30 minutes away. That means that if they have part time jobs, they are likely working closer to where they live. Community college transfers are also less likely to stay on campus (which doesn’t differ much to 4 year kids because typically as a student reaches junior/senior years, they start to lose any really need to stay directly on campus)
Rice, has a much higher percentage of wealthy students as well as students coming from out of state that can afford to live in off campus apartments in that area. Not saying every first gen student at UH is poor, but it’s just a totally different dynamic.
UH is honestly lucky that Rice doesn’t care about football, because if they did, they would be blow UH out of the water.
Third Ward gentrification is likely going to turn into what is West U/Rice Village rather than Heights or Eado. It’s going to be wealthy families that intend to live in a high value area of town. There will be townhomes in certain sections of a gentrified area of town.
The other issue is zoning. As more and more wealthier people move in, they will likely also reject building apartments unless they are luxury apartments.
Essentially it would be a fight between these 3 all wanting different things in the same area
- What UH would want
- Displaced historical residents fighting gentrification
- Wealthy people not connected to UH
They really haven’t
Houston is the only major city without zoning.
It’s what defines us.
That isn’t changing.
Anyway, your belief about some “racial element” is false, but I’ll allow you to keep believing whatever nonsense you wish, and believe it or not, you are literally the first person I’ve ever met who credits an undergrad business club with getting them a job.
As I said, it did nothing for me, professionally or socially, after grad.
By contrast, there are countless Greeks out there that credit Greek life with the same. Just look on this string. That’s only a small sample.
Believe what you will though.
Houston does have zoning, it’s just not called “zoning”
I’m merely using the term for general context
There are still building restrictions and minimum lot sizes in Houston depending on the area
If there wasn’t a racial element, then historically black and Hispanic fraternities such as Alpha Phi Alpha and Phi Iota Alpha would have never had to exist
- UH IBSC (Investment Banking Scholars Club)
- UH Accounting Association
- UH HBSA (Hispanic Business Student Association)
- UH Finance Association
- UH MISSO
- UH Supply Chain Association
Do you seriously think joining a social fraternity is the only way students are able to get a job? The out of touchness for you is showing if im the first person you’ve ever heard of to get a job from a business organization
That’s the literal point of business organizations.
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There’s absolutely a racial element to Greek life in the SEC if you pay attention literally at all. Some sororities at Bama and Auburn were only integrated within the last 15 years, and it was still very controversial. It’s hardly a secret.
Those Black fraternities were formed mostly a century or more ago.
A LOT has changed since then.
I can tell you that my early 90s Sigma Nu chapter has just about every race represented, and had several first generation college students, had multiple different Christian and non-Christian faith members, and non-believers….VERY diverse….and that was at an expensive private U in the Great Lakes.
So please stop acting as of this were the 1920s-1950s Greek life scene.
Today’s Greek Life is NOTHING like that, so stop falsely asserting that it is.
Stereotyping is BAD Bro.
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Yeah, but I am guessing that is pretty exceptional.
It’s certainly not the case at UH and in most Greek Life today.
Stop falsely stereotyping.
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Phi Iota Alpha is a Latino fraternity, not black.
I’m not suggesting that modern Greek Life adheres to the same formal principles as they did during the days of legal racism, but even today, most IFC fraternities and sororities are predominantly white. There are also mechanisms that make sure this remains a reality,
I am not stereotyping. I’m recognizing a reality that you are denying
As for getting a job from a business students club, never happened with the business students club at MY school Bro.
And I’ve never heard from any of those people since.
What undergrad did you go to?