UH vs. the SEC since 2021

We have played 11 games against the SEC since 2021. I’m always complaining about the ridiculous ref bias we face almost every time we play the SEC, so I thought I’d see how bad it actually is.

In 11 games, we have taken 204 free throws (18.5 per game).

In 11 games, our opponents have taken 329 (30 per game).

In those 11 games, we have taken more free throws than our opponents 1 time, an enormous +3 advantage against Auburn last season. In the other 10 games, our opponent has had a +8, +15, +14, +7, +10, +12, +16, +7, +18, and +21 advantage. When you consider we have lost 6 games by 22 combined points, these advantages are even more massive.

What makes this even worse is that these SEC teams are all similarly physical and prone to fouling as we are. Alabama, for instance, has averaged 0.27 fouls per possession in the last 5 years (over which we have played them 3 times), and we have averaged… 0.27 fouls per possession. Alabama has given its opponents 0.31 free throw attempts per possession, while we have averaged… 0.30. Fewer! And yet in our 3 games they have taken 30 more free throws than we have. What makes it even worse is that we have taken as many or even more 2-pointers than our SEC opponents in most of these games.

Now, I do think our style of play affects this a little-- our guards have generally tended to try and avoid contact a little more than SEC guards who are generally foul-hunters and our bigs often toss up floaters instead of taking it strong to the hoop, but that definitely isn’t the entire story. If you have watched these games, it’s painfully, infuriatingly obvious that the refs are flat out refereeing things differently depending on which team has the ball. We get called for every touch foul, every 50/50 ball goes the SEC team’s way (especially in the 2nd half), meanwhile our guards and bigs can’t buy a foul down low. Also how many goal-tend calls have been blown in these games? Feels like nearly 1 a game.

Anyway, we didn’t play particularly well yesterday so don’t take this as excuse-making, it’s just been an irritating trend I have noticed and wanted to analyze for myself and thought you all might find it interesting.

Some random notes:

We are 5-6 in these games. In our 6 losses, only Terry Oglesby has reffed more than once. And the only two times we have shot fewer than 10 free throws, Doug Sirmons was part of the crew-- 8 against A&M and 4(!!) against Tennessee last season-- we are down 63 to 26 in the 3 games Sirmons has reffed with an SEC opponent (adding the Florida game.)

At this point, if we have an SEC opponent, I almost don’t even want to watch since I know we are going to be playing 5 on 8, especially in the 2nd halves (I might check to see how much more egregious the free throw numbers are only in the 2nd half if I get bored later-- I’m almost certain it’s even worse. For instance, Auburn got a 20 to 2 advantage in the 2nd half this season, and I’ve noted similar happening in multiple games against the SEC.)

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You think, Coach knows these FT/foul stats? I’m thinking he does.

I’m sure. He’s a classy dude so he hasn’t outright ripped officials in the pressers but he’s definitely voiced some irritation at how some of these games were refereed.

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Good work btw

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This is excellent - thank you for doing the work to put this together.

This is F**KING EGREGIOUS. These striped sacks of sh*t need to be investigated (legally) for this, ESPECIALLY Doug Sirmins. Let me guess, Dougie has SEC affiliation(s)?

I am SEETHING with anger re-reading this. Like, really? 29 to 11 in FT against TN yesterday? Do these imbeciles hold us in such low regard (despite coming off a national title game appearance) that they can in good faith call a game so poorly?

The answer is yes. It’s why we were called for 7 consecutive fouls against UF in said Natty which allowed them to claw back into the game.

F**k the refs. Might as well have AI call games.

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the covid year woulda been a good time to experiment with that but given how the same goofy refs are the ones who’ll train ai in basketball unlike in baseball where its just about the strike zone you have too much faith that the ai won’t eventually find a way to eject cks every game when he crashes out during timeouts :broken_heart:

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So I went ahead and looked at the 2nd half free throw counts of these 11 games.

—Tennessee in 2025-26: 17-2 (+15)

—Auburn in 2025-26: 20-2 (+18)

—Florida in 2024-25: 19-12 (+7)

—Tennessee in 2024-25: 16-3 (+13)

—Alabama in 2024-25: 28-21 (+7)

—Auburn in 2024-25: 12-11 (+1)

—Texas A&M in 2023-24: 23-23, BUT, 14 of ours were intentional, so really 23-9 (+14); the game overall was 45-30, so when you consider the 14 intentional FTs, it was actually 45 to 16 lmao. (Which is nuts because that A&M squad was insanely physical, absolute bruisers who fouled on every single possession.) One of the most corrupt games I’ve ever seen. Refs literally did every single thing they could to send this to OT for the Aggies. Seriously, go watch the last 3 minutes of regulation. It’s worse than you remember. I counted I think 8 egregious calls/no calls that went against us in maybe 10 total possessions.

—Texas A&M in 2023-24: 12-4, but 2 were intentional so (+10)

—Auburn in 2022-23: 26-18 (+8)

—Alabama in 2022-23: 21-16 (+5)

—Alabama in 2021-22: 11-12 (holy sh*t, an advantage of 1!!)

So that’s +97 total on non-intentional fouls in the 2nd half, making up nearly all of the +125 total over the last 5 years (including 37 to f*cking 4 this season lmfao.) Refs have been noticeably calling things much tighter in the 2nd halves, obviously much more so on us. (Seriously, compare those FT totals— if someone wants to do the math, but it looks like 70+% of the game’s total free throws are occurring in the 2nd half of these games.)

Interesting note is that it’s gotten noticeably worse since the first SEC game in 23-24– since we moved to the Big 12. I guess since they fear us now, our big bad SEC opponents need the extra handicap.

Full disclosure, there may have been some intentional fouls on both sides I didn’t count, I tried to note the ones I remembered or were obviously intentional. There may have been 6 in an Alabama game that we intentionally gave them. It wouldn’t change the overall thesis though, which is that we get a) majorly screwed by refs in games against the SEC, and b) that it’s particularly ridiculous in the 2nd half.

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They should all do prison time. I’d love to see them behind bars with big Bubba.

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its probably because the sample only really blew up starting in 23-24 since realignment narrowed the ooc possibilities a bit bc the first bama game is probably the 2nd or 3rd most egregious one all things considered and back then we weren’t even a “hunted” back then like we are now lol

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And many here think the P2 “preference” only applies to Football.

P2 + Notre Dame is at the top of the pyramid…everyone are just pawns to help them win a Championship every single year.

P2 has the fans and viewership numbers to make the networks $$$$ so that’s who they, and the selection committees want to win…and win…and win

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This is something that Nunez and/or Yormark need to take up behind the scenes. And I doubt it would be because of any affiliation Sirmons has. It is much more likely because of any wagers he or someone close to him has.

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Excellent work. Full disclosure, I am not a gambler but can you imagine what Las Vegas can do with these stats? This study and others that I have seen only reinforces that the “fix” is in.
To be tilted in one way but to be tilted that much in one direction can only be intentional. J_Coog is right. This has to be brought up NOWby Nunez and Yormark.
This data is extensive. I would like to see if the same is happening to UCLA, Kansas, Arizona, Gonzaga and other basketball blue bloods against sec teams?

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Oh absolutely. Vegas knows whenever we play the SEC we are guaranteed to get doubled up on free throw attempts, minimum. Huge gambling implications.

Another note-- Sirmons has been the ref in 2 of our 4 Big 12 losses over the last two seasons.

Also, in our only conference loss last year against Texas tech, they outshot us 20 to 1 in free throws in the 2nd half lmao. (We shot 2 intentional ones in addition to that 1-- Sirmons wasn’t reffing that one, though-- he did 2024’s super questionably reffed tcu loss and then the loss at Kansas.)

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That second half in the Tech game was the most egregious case of a crew trying to affect the outcome of a game they had screwed up that I’ve ever seen.

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Yup, they clearly felt bad about tossing Toppin and spent the rest of the game giving Tech every single call they could. Even the game winning FTs in OT were on a soft call.

If I remember correctly that was a weirdly inexperienced crew of guys I’d never heard of.

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im pretty sure vegas just copy pastes whatever kenpom and torvik thinks will happen bc if they accounted for that we would be underdogs against any sec team thats capable of getting a protected seed with how egregious the calls get in the second half :sob:

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There was a stretch where Tech shot 20 FTs between our trips to the line

Yeah but this data isn’t normalized for an opponent’s ability to get to the free throw line?

Typically you’d look at those teams FT attempts/FG Attempts to measure that. Kenpom tracks that stat and thus has a ranking for all the teams. We’re always at the bottom of that every year because Kelvin would rather sacrifice FTs, if it meant limiting turnover prone drives in to traffic

Because you aren’t really telling us if this is what these teams did to everyone they played because they were a bunch of free throw merchants, or if it were an anomolous performance from their team.

But also, our defense fouls alot (See Kelvin’s comments from this week in one of the post games) and we don’t get to the line very often.

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This is exactly the problem - we should get to the line much more when you consider the amount of shots we take in and around the paint against teams that also foul a lot.

Our opponents aren’t officiated on defense the way we are.

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Tennessee this week is a great example. We got 12 Free Throws against them, and then Kansas the next day got 30.

Bill Self said he just told them to drive to the paint and take fouls in the 2nd half. So did CKS the day before. If we got Kansas fouls we probably would win quite a few of the close games we’ve had.

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