Washington DC - New Name

Yeah, or split it between Maryland and Virginia. I am in full support of making Puerto Rico a state though.

This plan would backfire so hard it’s like you don’t understand demographics at this point… It plays right into the strengths of Democrats, the cities and diversifying and college educated suburbs. You split Texas into five there’s no way you negate Houston, DFW, San Antonio, Austin, and El Paso with enough oil hands and ranchers dispersing that voting block up over 5 states. 4 out of 5 of those go blue instantly.

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You would have to gerrymander the hell out of it and could probably make it 3-2 red, maybe an outside chance at 4-1 red. Borders that make sense would most likely fall 3-2 or 4-1 blue. If you just cut off west Texas (west of the I-35 cities), its a blue state by a pretty decent margin.

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Gerrymandering a state border would be very different than a congressional district. No way that flies.

You would probably end up with something like 6 Reps - 4 Dems which doesn’t change the calculus. And, as mentioned, there is a chance it completely backfires.

This is true they could create 3-4 very red economic wastelands that would fit right in with WV, MS, KY.

Bottom line staying on topic, DC’s population is criminally underrepresented, for a state sized population and an economy greater than several states it deserves full representation in the House and the Senate. If that means statehood fine of that means carving out a way for it to have full representation legislatively that’s good too.

What in the world does Madoff have to do with this discussion?

I don’t give a flip about the party. Independent , Republican, or Democratic is irrelevant
to me. It’s about we the people.

The Constitutional problem is unique to Washington D.C.

Somehow the wording of the 23rd. Amendment would double the Electoral College votes to 6 for just 800,000 citizens. That small area would have 4 Senators and 2 House Members.

No other proposed new State has such a problem.

The 23rd. Amendment has to be abolished byCongress, then submitted to all 50 States to be ratified.

Ratification means 38 States say “Yes”.

Since 30 States are Republican ratification is impossible.

Democrats know this. Just part of their pandering to Black voters. Indeed part of the proposed State name is dedicated to Frederick Douglas.

Making an analogy with the d.c. swamp. d.c. is a ponzi scheme.

You would have the Austin State.

Have you been to Austin ? Homeless camps everywhere.

You can have Austin.

That’s what you’re going with? “Austin state” has homeless people. I mean I guess the counter here you can have East Texas with it’s crap economics and population of Klansmen and confederate loving traitors.


Look the DC statehood thing is about the impending census results. There is a real chance that California and New York will lose a representative because people are moving out and Texas and Florida will gain representatives because people are moving in. It is just a numbers thing.

Yes Austin is a mess. Freeway overpasses are full of full blown homeless camps. It is horrible.

If you think DC statehood is about politics (and I do think so), it’s MUCH more about the Senate than the House. Exponentially more.


Who are these homeless people ?
Are they mentally ill ? Do they have substance abuse addictions ? Or do
you think it’s just a bunch of free loaders too lazy to work ?

I’ve read 1/3 to 1/2 may have mental illness. Do you dispute
that assessment? What kind of society relegates these people to the street ?
Where do you think they should go ? Jails ? State institutions? How will you
pay for either of those things ?

And do you really think the homeless congregate to cities because all cities
are run by Democrats ( I really don’t know if that’s true or not) ? I believe they
congregate in cities because an overpass is better than laying in an open prairie.
I believe they go to cities because there are people there. More people, better chance
to get drive by resources or acquire things.

Framing the homeless problem as Blue or Red is not helpful.


Here are the cities with most homeless.

Interpret the data however you want.

In terms of Austin, drive around you see large homeless camps out in the open. Why? Because the city government tolerates it.

They pride themselves on tough real estate regs in Austin. Its true it takes forever to get permitting. Unless of course you are homeless you can build anything anywhere.

I think the biggest reason homeless live in cities is there is more support (people, shelters, food pantries, etc.).

That said, there are homeless people in rural areas too. They don’t congregate nearly as much because there aren’t as many and there aren’t always clear places to congregate.

I’ve never seen homeless per capita stats across the country but never really looked hard for them. That would be interesting.

Edit: Found a stat for above. City homelessness is ~2X higher per capita than rural.

Here is all the data you ever wanted on the homeless.

When you look at state numbers and city numbers, it becomes very clear.

It didn’t have what I was looking for at first glance but I found what I needed elsewhere.

Get to the end for the homeless trading points where 51 is eventually going to get to

Look at the data and interpret the results as you see fit. But if you actually look at the data it fits with a mindset of “acting like you care but in reality you really don’t care”. They don’t want to help the homeless that takes effort. But they don’t want to clean up these camps because it could impact their well crafted image as someone who is nice and cares. So it sits and it gets worse and the sanctimony grows.

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