Here is his 6. So all of these schools want him as a QB.
https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/1260707505409228808?s=09
To someone like CoachV and others I think this really shows the importance of having the right recruiters on staff. Meekins helped Herman while here with recruiting. We didnât seem to be having great success in High School recruiting especially here in Houston. Hopefully Corby helps but brings up the question on rating our other staff members in recruiting ability. I would have though Carrier would have been better than what we have seen. So how would you guys rank our staff by recruiting ability? It seems that Belk could be a good recruiter. Are we wasting him in Georgia and Southestern Jucoâs.? Just wondering.
Herman sold kids on our going to the Big 12. Levine, while not a HC, was a recruiter that didnât have to make promises, saw potential and signed stellar kids.
Herman was an excellent huckster, but once he was exposed as just another tinhorn liar, he went where that goes down well. Like old honest Abe said, âYou can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time. But, you canât fool all of the people all of the time.â We should have gone ndefeated in the regular season in 2016, but the lies caught up to him and he lost the trust of the team.
By now, most of the kids heâs recruiting have either forgotten about that or didnât know in the first place, so the huckster can still bring in the talent to UT with all of the advantages available. But he still hasnât maintained a product commenusrate with the talent and resources available at the Evil Empire.
Herman sold Hoop dreams. The current coaches are way more authentic in their pitches so Iâd expect the guys who sign with the Coogs to be legit. Staff also conducts their own evals instead of logging on 247 and looking at some arbitrary number when offering.
The previously mentioned is another reason why herman canât win. I donât doubt for a second he is he is a good coach, I think he like many other lazy recruiters rely to heavily on joe blowâs recruiting services; the results are on the field.
Itâs great that the staff is more authenticv with recruits. And great that they do their own evals. But once again, the whole âstars donât matterâ/âOnly to sell subscriptionsâ assertion just doesnât hold up.
Thereâs a reason the top teams are all stackked to the gills with the top ranked talent, itâs because it does matter. Now what is done with that talent on campus is on the coaches. But coaches saying recruiting rankings/stars are just to sell subscriptions are really saying âwe are really struggling to make an impact at the top end of the talent market add need to deflect.â To me Iâd respect honesty more, âItâs really tough recruiting the top talents weâd like to bring to campus. So we have to work harder to find kids who fit our system who have the ability to compete at a high level.â
Thereâs a reason that Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Georgia, etc are playing for national championships every year. Look at where they are year in and year out when it comes to recruiting rankings.
FYI - UT has consistently out-recruited OU but coaching and program culture matters.
âAhemâŠPardon meâŠDo you have any Grey Poupon ?â Said one UT limo to anotherâŠ
No one is saying it doesnât. It is absolutely a factor in determining a programâs success.
But the whole âstars donât matterâ/ âto sell subscriptionsâ is also hogwash and if itâs coming from coaches thatâs them setting you up for a recruiting class that may be good, but itâs going to be unexciting on signing day.
I know we use UT and Aggie as our proof of this concept. But have we ever stopped to consider that one Aggies play in the toughest division in all of college football, by a lot. So success is just going to be harder.
And UT may just be the exception to the rule. Not the actual rule, because big picture recruiting tend wise they are definitely the underachieving anomaly.
It holds up if you realize that outside of the top 300 players itâs a crapshoot. Thatâs why theyâre at the topâŠbecause the kids that these services are actually looking at happen to be much much fewer than the kids theyâre assigning random numbers to.
Those schools are also at the top because theyâre stacked 4 cycles deep at a time. But to sit here and say that such and such who committed to UH is the 1400th ranked recruit with a .7899 rating is the most coffee shop desk jockey thing Iâve ever seen.
Again most of these âexpertsâ are getting their info from camps, and the kids who donât attend go unnoticed. Those kids who can play end up at UH.
Imagine a world were Nick Saban and other big schools still decide to sign 3 star kids that Joe Blowâs Rating Service gave a random number to because they didnt do their homework.
Thatâs one of MANY examples in which these numbers mean absolutely nothing. I take that backâŠthese numbers mean, save the money you pay for a subscription because youâre getting ripped off.
I donât know who Joe Blow is, but Joe Burrow was a 3 star that did OK.
Joe Burrow was 4 stars. Ohio State rarely recruits 3 stars
Joe Blow is just a generic name like John Smith. I should have said John Doe because the ratings adjusters of those "recruiting " services sites are intentionally hidden to avoid accountability. Donât have to face the music if people canât question your methodology to you personally. Joe Burrow was rated a 4 star, but Josh Jacobs would be a good 3 star example.
@RedDragonCoog
Ohio State literally has three 3 star rated guys in their class of 2021. They always recruit 3 stars.
2020: 7 three stars, and ironically have a transfer TE from Smoo who was rated a 2 star out of HS. What gives?
2019: 5 three stars
2018: 3 three stars, most notable guy being Chris Olave.
I can keep going but you get the pointâŠblue bloods have it easier because they can pick out of the top 350 kids that the ârecruitingâ services actually pay attention to and usually get right. After that, they have see the value and conduct evals like the rest of the colleges. No one can convince me that rivals et al. have a staff vast enough to evaluate weekly over 3,000 kids the way CDH does a select few. Like alwaysâŠI trust the coaches !
I think this is a good recruiting staff. We got 3 off the TD Club head table this year. Long time since that has happened.
Corbyâs rep with local HS Coaches is really good. That helps tremendously.
We have a group of young energetic recruiters.
https://twitter.com/samspiegs/status/1262035439411703809?s=21
Tough to beat, overcome that sales pitch. We gave it a good shot.
We will always have an uphill battle for top recruits until we are P5 or have a legitimate shot at the playoffs.
No surprises here I donât think. It does suck though, maybe the SA kid will still be in play fit us though.
We didnât even make the tv.