Which I also thought was ridiculous.
I donât practice in the criminal realm, but I am a lawyer. Release of the report will not be evidence per se, but will give the plaintiffs a good idea of where they need to go to get the evidence they need. Everything in that report will be hearsay which is not admissible. But if attorneys and investigators did speak openly for purposes of the report, it will be very difficult to go back and refute anything stated in the report.
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We all have. I sympathize with victims of this kind of situation and those who freeze in the moment because it can happen to us all. Its simple group thinking psychology. And that may likely have been the case for KB and RC, but Iâm not faulting them for that.
What bugs me the most about them is that theyâve shown no remorse for being apart of the biggest scandal in college football history, ruined the lives of players, and victims, but yet feel theyâre the ones that have suffered the most. They still have jobs, theyâve received their second chances at other schools. From the looks of it their career will continue and prosper as if they were never apart of it in the first place. So stop acting as if they have the worst of situation or that voices like me are simply grandstanding.
If KB was not a phenomenal OC UH wouldâve never hired him and if they did hire him those defending him wouldnât defend his hire. Theyâd call him Brian Johnson 2.0. This is about winning and people refuse to acknowledge that, and would rather sweep the serious ethical matters under the rug.
Thanks for the insight. I was wondering if items in the Pepper Hamilton were admissible.
If there are sworn statements contained within the report, they will be admissible. But from the limited knowledge I have of what the report is, and the fact that no lawyer worth his salt would EVER agree to a sworn statement like this, I doubt there is anything in there that would be admissible.
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Well, to be fair, every hire ever made in the history of sports has been about winning. This is cleary a matter of risk/reward. Any time you hire someone with an iffy past, you are putting yourself at risk. Thatâs what is happening here. I have zero issue with anyone hating this hire. The concerns are 100% valid. Criminal convictions happen all the time based on circumstantial evidence so I donât fault anyone for judging KB based on the circumstantial evidence available. I was just trying to explain where I land and also express my trust of Dr. Khator in these types of situations. It may turn out she bet a little too heavily on this one. I guess weâll find out.
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No I understand and agree. Iâm accepting the hire because of Dr. K, but to be fair I donât feel her response clears KB and RC. Also, I believe they will firmly guard the program and not allow the culture that started the issues at Baylor come close to ours. The out-clause is simply a way to get rid of them should anything arise.
âSo in the mean time weâll win with you, but if anything comes up youâre gone.â That âbut ifâ says to me âwe donât know if youâre guilty of anythingâ. And thatâs enough justification for me to not hire him. But Dr. K still feels the hire is worth the risk, so I have to accept the hire to support the program.
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UHâ13 -
Love your passion and support of UHâŠwe need 25k+ more of you. Donât agree with all you post but itâs your right and besides know many donât like mine either. Us âeldersâ canât last forever, your generation is the key to taking UH to the next levelâŠkeep the fire burning!
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I donât believe that the Pepper Hamilton report can be released because it wasnât actually written. The report was given orally and only the bullet points were release. I believe theyâve moved in to get records of sexual assaults from the University and how they were handled and I believe that was approved.
Note: Iâm not excusing anything that happened, but all of this deals with the entire University, not just football so any report would only contain some football info and it would probably minimal. What we know is that whatever was reported orally to the admin at Baylor caused them to fire Art Briles immediately, but they retained the rest of the staff. Ian McCaw was later let go as well.
That does lend credence to the theory that Kendal and Clements probably werenât involved directly in the ongoing issues. However, he, along with other coaches, probably had an indirect influence on the culture that prevailed at Baylor and he did fight back initially about the claims which is problematic. He hasnât fought back since trying to defend his father when Art was still there.
As far as showing remorse, I doubt he can say anything about the situation with the ongoing lawsuits as his lawyers have probably told him to keep quiet. I would imagine he has shown remorse in private as I doubt he would have been hired at UH if he wasnât. Even if he does come out and apologize, he more than likely would be crucified for it. Basically, itâs a no-win situation for him and thatâs probably fair considering what happened.
One other thing to note, Kendal is a Coog. He has a degree from the University and while we are trying to use him to win, we are also trying to give him a chance because he is a Coog. If he was an SMU grad, I doubt heâd be here right now.
However, weâre all diehards on this board and give in some way. I respect all opinions and implore those that are upset with the admin or the football program to consider giving to other sports or give specifically to the scholarship programs so the money goes directly to the athletesâ education. Also, make sure your voices are heard, from either side of the aisle, as we all can have influence on taking the program where we want it to go. Stay involved because, if youâre still on this board, you more than likely still love the Coogs.
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I can guarantee you this is the truth. His attorneys will lock him in a dungeon if he tries to say anything publicly about his time at Baylor.
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He was gone either way to save the university, but what was interesting is they still paid a buyout. I donât get that.
Him or RCâŠ