Realignment speculation

pray10 · July 9, 2018, 5:07am

Flugie had a “B1G Man” tweet storm.

Coog51 · July 9, 2018, 9:01am

Texas and OU to the Big 10. Houston, Cincinnati, UCF, Memphis, BYU and USF to the Big 12,

OR Texas and OU to the Big. Houston and Kansas to the Pac 12.

OldtimeCoog · July 9, 2018, 11:56am

I don’t believe OU will go anywhere with UT. If both leave the B12 then the B12 will cease to be a power conference and no combination of schools can save it. The B12 will become The American pt 2. The best for UH would be to go to the PAC with TT, Kansas, and either OSU or New Mexico. I would say TCU instead of of OSU or New Mexico but the PAC has a ingrained bias against church owned schools.

red80 · July 9, 2018, 1:43pm

Even better is the scenario you presented except that UT burns to the ground. OK, that won’t happen; but even better the B12 dissolves and no one wants UT and they go independent – but can’t get anyone to play them because everyone hates them.

digitx · July 9, 2018, 3:51pm

I think we’ve covered all the scenarios between this post and the other realignment posts.

If UT and OU go to the Big10, then we would be truly moving to the ‘super conference’ scenario of 32 or 64 teams. Just skim the so called ‘blue-bloods’ from the B10/SEC/ACC and Pac.

All I know is that this season is critical, not only in football, but all sports, in developing our (UH’s) position as the best G5 university academically as well as athletically. If so, we will have been on a consistent upward trajectory for 10-15 yrs by 2022-25 when all of this goes down. Getting the med school up and running is just as critical as anything else. Kind of following the TCU model.

P5_OR_Bust · July 9, 2018, 4:19pm

As much as everyone here hates UT, the fact remains that any P5 would snap them up, if they ever chose to leave the Big 12!

ArkCoogfan · July 9, 2018, 4:22pm

I agree everyone wants UT but no one wants The Longhorn Network.

digitx · July 9, 2018, 4:39pm

From what I’ve heard, OU is the school that everything will pivot on…before Flugar (spelling) latest’s rant.

UT may be snapped ups, but they do carry a lot of baggage, including that network. UT would have to be submissive to any other conference, and assuming that schools like Nebraska or A&M or Colorado would allow the school they escaped from into their conference.

I don’t think red80 has overstated UT’s position

kgwood75 · July 9, 2018, 4:58pm

I doubt very seriously they would have the votes to join the SEC.

Coogcheese · July 9, 2018, 5:45pm

Lets have some fun since we’re talking about wild speculation. If UT/OU are taken by other conferences that leaves only 8 teams left in the B12. Those left would be in full panic mode. At conference headquarters they would be working to expand immediately or face implosion and losing their jobs.

So…do we join those a$$hats or do we somehow convince our conference mates to band together, stay the course and pick off the best of whats left (OSU, WVU, TTech, TCU, KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor)?

Contractually the leftover B12 could have P5 status for at least a few years like the BE. They would throw out conf bids ASAP with that being their biggest selling point. Could UH turn that down? Could UH turn that down if say Memphis, UCF, and others were hinting about accepting?

As much as I’d like to think the AAC teams could band together and break off the best of whats left there probably is too much dead weight at the bottom to then try to make a P5 claim. Tulane, Temple & Tulsa will never be much more than they are today. UConn will get back to hoops glory but they will never be anything in football. I doubt the bottom of the AAC will ever give me the ‘big time’ warm and fuzzies.

As much as I hate to say it…we’d need to fly the coop and head to the short time sure thing. We should at least lobby for them to take as many AAC teams as possible. 6 Minimum. 8 if possible.

Start with… OSU, WVU, TTech, TCU, KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor(uhg) and add UH, Memphis, UCF, USF, Cincy and ??? Navy/Witchita St for FB/BB respectively would be my next choice. Teams 7 & 8 get dicey. UConn for hoops and ECU for football attendance (if WVU vouches for them) perhaps.

Probably need to consider them looking at MWC teams as well. Maybe 4 or 6 is the max from the AAC.

At this time SMU is screaming. I don’t really care. Swap them for Baylor. That would be fine.

I don’t know…just some meandering musings…

EatEmUp · July 9, 2018, 5:47pm

Mike, you think just like me! THAT - is precisely what I hope for the most!

CougarDave · July 9, 2018, 6:28pm

This is probably the best option. Big XII bowl agreements must be better than AAC. My fear is that the leftovers in the Big XII go out of Texas for their additions…screwing UH and SMU one more time.

Catamount997 · July 9, 2018, 6:53pm

UT has a lot of alumni in the Houston area; remove them from the conference and B12 really only has north texas teams with very few alumni (except Tech) spread across the state. Baylor and TCU combined enrollment is half ours. Not sure they could afford to overlook us.

Dan · July 9, 2018, 7:22pm

Tech enrollment is 30, 759.

red80 · July 9, 2018, 7:42pm

Pat, like you I have had a long time (not nearly as long as you of course) to observe how despicable, sleazy, and downright evil UT is. A whole lot of our younger Coogs missed out on all of their shenanigans and just don’t understand yet. The B12 fiasco a couple of years ago should have given them a taste of what it’s like dealing with UT; but that was just a drop in the bucket of what some of our older Coogs have witnessed.

Catamount997 · July 9, 2018, 7:49pm

That’s why I said ‘except Tech’. And ‘Baylor and Tcu combined’.
And if you add in our system schools we have a combined enrollment of over 70,000.

Coogcheese · July 9, 2018, 8:55pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if they at least thought about it. But after losing UT what they’ll have left is squat in Texas. BU is damage goods, TTech is a never-has-been and TCU has been great for a while and still nobody but their fans care. If they want to keep a B12 flag in Texas and claim its the biggest in the state they’ll need UH. Of course, their fans would never admit the obvious…

CougarDave · July 9, 2018, 9:25pm

Who is the heavyweight / decision maker / driver in what is left of the Big XII in this scenario? Ok State or TCU (football) and KU (basketball)?

Does Oklahoma St and/or KU want to re-create that Texas flavor by adding a 4th Texas school in UH when it did not enjoy the Texas flavor from the original?

Would they prefer adding an Oklahoma school (Tulsa) to pair with Ok State / easier travel and maybe two Florida schools (USF, UCF) for media purposes and then go with Cincy for West Virginia.

I used to get excited about these talks of expansion but getting into a pseudo-P5 like the Big XII leftovers seems a lot like keeping the BCS auto-bid from the Big East for a season…short-lived access to the big boys’ table. But unfortunately this seems like a more reasonable scenario than the ACC or PAC much less the SEC.

OldtimeCoog · July 9, 2018, 10:48pm

without UT or OU the B12 is dead as a power conference. There is no teams they can add that would be an anchor school.

EECOOG69 · July 9, 2018, 10:51pm

UH…