UPDATE: Wiseman suspended 12 games

NCAA doesn’t have any power anymore. Even the county judge overruled them.:smile::smile::smile:

Shelby County judge on Friday halted the NCAA’s ruling for the time being, making Wiseman eligible to play Friday night when the No. 14 Tigers hosted Illinois-Chicago.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28037071/ncaa-rules-memphis-james-wiseman-ineligible-top-prospect-gets-stay-play-friday%3Fplatform=amp

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This sums it up why there may be no explaining it.
“When you remove the names from the situation, a Memphis booster paid for an elite recruit to move to Memphis and then that elite recruit subsequently enrolled at Memphis…
did not disclose the payments that he made to Wiseman’s family when he accepted the Memphis head coaching position.”

This could eventually get him fired. Sounds draconian/insane but its the NCAA.

Most any judge can get a temporary ruling at the close of day on friday. It’s what happens tuesday (monday is Veterans Day) that matters.

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I think it’s going to take more than that to get him fired. The school will have to find another Penny infraction or the NCAA puts the school on probation.

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Memphis does not care that he cheated. In fact, they expect it !

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He can play…just not for Memphis !!

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Unless he’s found at fault by the NCAA, Memphis won’t fire Penny. Memphis fans would revolt.

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Lol. Penny being a “booster” at Memphis is even more ridiculous. He gave money to the school 11 years ago.

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https://twitter.com/JohnMartin929/status/1192994806299054080?s=20

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As he should.

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I can’t get mad @ Memphis seeing Will Wade/Sean Miller still coaching and UNC didn’t get hit with any penalties.

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Sure he did…and none thereafter !!!:stuck_out_tongue:

Litigate this thing for five months and let the kid play.

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Hmm…interesting article. Says that Wiseman would likely only be suspended for 9 games; Memphis was prepared to sit him for those 9 games, but Wiseman’s family decided to fight it in court so he could play immediately. So, this now pushes back his suspension and risks the games he’s playing in now to be counted as losses later.

Seems sort of strange if that’s the case and I’m not sure why the family would fight this now. Of course, we don’t know the NCAA’s side as of yet and it’s possible that a harsher punishment for Wiseman is coming down the line due to unknown evidence.

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There are three universal truths: death, taxes, and Memphis blatantly cheating in basketball.

If Memphis and Hardaway are allowed to get away with basically openly buying players…why shouldn’t every school do the exact thing if there are zero consequences?

Memphis needs to get hit hard.

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To clear things up, the reporter who originally tweeted the story typed “2008”, but followed up with a correction of “2018” a few minutes later. This happened last year, not 11 years ago.

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Why is it cheating? The guy helped them move. I can see where the uproar could be but they disclosed it. That doesnt make him a cheater. If anything the kid and his family get the last say on where he goes. 11k isnt going to make anyone go to Memphis over Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, etc. Especially if they quote on quote “pay better”. Also he wasn’t the Memphis coach and who knows if he was even going to get the job didnt they interview alot of people? Why would anyone in our conference not be supporting them so we as a conference stay strong.

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Ok, here’s a scenario:

Let’s say there is a 17 year old player out in eastern Oklahoma. He’s better than LeBron James at his age in all facets of the game, 6’ 10" and still growing. The family is dirt poor.

Now, one day a fan of a large, fictitious school, we’ll call it TU for our example, drives up in his burnt orange car. This fan has donated large amounts of money to his alma mater over the years. They even named the college of ethics and integrity after him. The alumnus takes a shine to the young kid. Says he owns 3 car dealerships back in Texas. Talks to his father, who has been unemployed for two years, and tells him that he would like them to move to Texas, he’ll pay for the move and give the father a job for $100K a year, just come by every morning and unlock the front door to the dealership at 9:00 AM and go home. Oh, and the job also comes with a $250,000 home too. And his grades? Don’t worry about it, he’ll have people “assist” him with taking his college boards.

Now, when it comes time for our phenom to go to college, where do you think he is going to go? Does he have to go to TU? Of course not!! He can go where ever he wants. :wink: Of course, it could be difficult to make that house payment. And, the alum could probably find someone to open up in the morning for less that $100K/year.

Do you see anything wrong with this scenario? It’s the same thing. A family is being given inducements to attend a specific school. It is cheating!! Think this doesn’t happen? Look up Eric Dickerson’s recruitment before he went to SMU. Nice car, look at his home.

To quote Hannibal Lechter in Silence of the Lambs, “Quid Pro Quo, Clarece.”

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Lol. It’s not the same thing. It was $11,000. That’s it. To help the family move back to Memphis. Not quite the lavish scenario you pointed out above.

Also, Memphis was transparent with the entire situation. And the NCAA deemed him eligible. Now they’re coming back and saying he is ineligible? Just the NCAA being the NCAA.

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It’s odd.
I share you thoughts that more could be coming.
The family must want to get as much tape as possible for him right now on the college level for the draft.

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This is not cheating, ppl are trying to assume and extrapolate to look it like cheating. The facts are Penny helped a family move to Memphis as an AAU coach. At that point he was not associated with Memphis in any way officially. Hence no conflict of interest can be established. Penny then goes to become the coach of Memphis two years later and at that point he brings in the players he coached in his AAU. That is as normal as it can be. There are programs hiring fathers as coaches to bring in their son into their program, there are many precedence of AAU and HS coaches being hired in colleges such that they can bring in their kids to those schools. Memphis will win this hands down. The precedence is a long list. NCAA cannot act on these selectively. A selective disposition is never fair or just. I will support Memphis and Penny on this.

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