Based on AI, the Oklahoma Seminole Nation has more than 9 times the enrollment of the Florida Seminole Nation.
The smaller band seems OK with FSU though.
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Related factoid, the Florida tribe gets no money from licensing or FSU merchandise
sales.
But their members supposedly can get thousands per month from the tribe.
Seminole Tribe of Florida: Enrolled members of the Florida tribe receive regular per-capita dividend payments generated from the tribe’s massive casino and business enterprise profits, such as Hard Rock International. Reports and member estimates indicate these distributions can total thousands of dollars a month or a substantial yearly sum (historically reported around or exceeding tens of thousands of dollars annually), though exact payout figures are managed internally by the tribal government and are not uniform flat-rate millions for everyone.
Time to get my DNA checked.
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Many Native American tribes are now making money off of casino ventures entered into through the Indian Gaming Act of 1988.
In that regard, the Chippewa Tribe owns and runs one of the largest such Native American gaming casinos of all…right close to CMU.
Adult Chippewa tribal members likewise receive dividends from the venture in the same way that the Florida Seminoles do from their casino ventures.
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Just wondering, if Florida State had invented what is known as Gatorade instead of the University of Florida, would the Seminole Nation have been happy with naming it Seminole Fluid?
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Now THAT’S funny!
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I mean… if the history of America is any indicator then the Gators probably did steal it from thee Seminoles…
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Don’t use the same one Liz used.
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so the original guy was a tribal chief and it was just fine for decades until a few people were offended. that was what was once great about the usa, people had the right to use offensive language, disagree and move on. about the only offensive language that is acceptable in the usa today are swear words, which doesn’t offend me; just shows the level of intelligence of the person i am dealing with if swearing is normal everyday language.
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agree, if i lived in cleveland; i would only wear indians shirts; even if i had to make them myself.
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I still wear Colt .45 duds:
But Cleveland is a bit different.
That Chief Wahoo image is a pretty offensive caricature, in my view.
I still like the name Washington Bull Sharks.
Bull Sharks can be found in the Potomac River so its a regional reference.
Also, Washington BS is totally on point.
The Commanders name is pretty awful. I can’t see it without thinking of The Handmaid’s Tale.
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“Seemed to be” is the operative phrase here. There may have been more-or-less a consensus, but only amongst frankly a very offensively narrow subsect of people w/ predictably woke opinions. And that goes for Non-native and native alike!
If only there was a member of this board who posts pretty much daily, is widely recognized, and whose screen name was a dead giveaway that they would likely be someone relevantly worthwhile to run this particular issue by 
…
Then we’d really be cooking the frybread w/ oil!
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This is pretty universal for federally recognized tribes (because that comes with federally recognized gaming rights, as well as guaranteed land held collectively in trust over which the tribe exercises a fairly substantial degree of autonomous governing authority, so long as it doesn’t conflict with superceding Federal Law.)
Practically speaking tho, each tribe varies dramatically in the actual profitability of said ventures, relevant geographic and logistical luck of the draw (location, location, location, management/capital, etc), tribal enrollment (there are some out east that the profits are split between a handful of surviving members, there are some that have tens of thousands to spread this across), blood quantumn thresholds for federally recognized membership (my tribe is 1/4 tribal blood, some are dramatically more and less restrictive), and restrictions and requirements on who can receive financial dividends, services, and assistance.
In terms of my tribe, the reservation is the poorest place in the US, the casino is saddled w/ debt it can never repay, has 3rd world standard of living metrics, is gang and crime ridden, is completely off the beaten path, and is frankly a place where it is unsafe for ANYONE to spend the night, let alone live there, in just about every way you can imagine.
And you HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THE RESERVATION BORDERS in order to get your $600 a month. There is an additional lowered SSI threshold so basically you get another $300 from our federal tax dollars just for living there. So $900 per month to live on the Rez, good luck finding a job. I should add you do receive basic healthcare services at the local hospital, education, a flip phone… stuff like that for free, too.
If you leave for a better life, you get NOTHING. I’d go ahead and save that DNA test money if there’s even a slight chance you have Lakota blood in particular @NRGcoog . You’ll probably come out ahead 
Tho I can’t speak for other tribes, and if I could, it would take all day to explain each one anyways.
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Gee.
That Soaring Eagle resort brings in hundreds of millions in revenue per year for the Chippewa Tribe. It’s the largest casino in the state of Michigan.
Not sure about profits though.
How do you feel about Chief Wahoo (Cleveland MLB), and Chief Iliniwek (Illinois)?
I have zero problem with either. Nor the Redskins.
Quite the opposite, I think to erase these nicknames is yet another act of historical erasure that only serves to distance our nation from its shameful past transgressions and fumbling of the aftermath as a whole, whether intentional or not.
I also feel it has a “bigotry of low expectations” component to it, by inadvertently infantilizing natives by tacitly implying they somehow can’t compartmentalize and mentally handle these mascots and depictions for what they are. And robbing them of an opportunity to feel pride in them as a reminder of their continued existence, perseverance, and historical impact on our national character.
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Also the style of costume from 1930 onward for Chief Illiniwek was of my tribe, not of Illinoian people. That’s a good thing and a point of pride for me.
In fact, I am a direct decendant of the man you purchased his last costume from in the 80s. He was invited to UI to present it in person, which he accepted.
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Well, this was the Chief’s “last dance” at Illinois.
Maybe I’m too sensitive, but this does seem a bit cartoonish to me.
I could definitely get down with the “Mammoths” though.
For the record, the descendants of the Illiniwek confederacy, the Peoria Tribe of Oklahoma, has always STRONGLY opposed the mascot.
Yeah… it was probably smart to scrap the dance and the physical mascot itself. It’s just not the appropriate context for it.
But if you saw a modern powwow performance it would probably similarly impact you on some level, TBH. You’d be uncomfortable on some level if you were being completely honest, because even I experience that. And I’ve been to several.
But the context overrides that. The drumming and the wailing and such is dope.
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