There is already a post above that addresses how Bibi has actively empowered Hamas throughout his tenure and uses them as a tool to justify his genocidal war which will continue to alienate Israel and the US globally.
Clear Indication of alienation:
UN vote 142 vs 21 against the ground offensive in Gaza and illegal land grabs in the West Bank
Our closest allies and strong supporters of Israel have turned against this war (post above)
I desperately want the hostages to return so, bombing Hamas leadership at the moment they are signing an agreement to release more hostages/implement a ceasefire makes no sense…
Mossad even refused to get involved in this attack because it would jeopardize hostage negotiations. (source below):
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So I’ve been staying out of this thread. Just scanned a little bit, I see arguments about the difference in Hamas and The Palestinian Authority, arguments over if Tucker Carlson was fired or not (probably the dumbest argument), plenty of war discussions, but nothing on “anti-palistinianism”. At least not as I understood what this thread was supposed to be about.
I thought it was a parallel to the antisemitism thread in which you would post various anti-Palestinian (ethnic hate or ethnic bias) incidents around the world and not be a place to argue about the war. I guess I was wrong.
Rhetorical questions
Is this thread still on topic?
If so, what is the topic?
Is this just a thread full of politics that’s should have been closed a while ago?
Is this what the OP really had in mind when starting the thread and arguing for it to stay open?
Anyways, answer those or don’t. I’m not hanging around this thread to participate. May the remaining hostages get home soon. May there be peace and prosperity for all people in the Middle East.
Both threads bring about awareness, this thread allows for more disagreement which is good since it allows people on several sides to present their arguments.
No one is forced to agree on anything which is personal, this is a place where people can bring forth their arguments, opinions, and thoughts.
Right.
It’s just so easy to naturally go from one to other ( people to government/state to people) when discussing. Admittedly I’ve done it a time or two.
When this in place they need to hold elections to see how the citizens vote.
Will they go for PLO, somebody else, or vote for Hamas and expect the war to be resumed ? Last election was long time ago and Hamas got like 44%.
Per wiki…
Legislative elections were held in the Palestinian territories on 25 January 2006 in order to elect the second Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC), the legislature of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA). The result was a victory for Hamas, contesting under the list name of Change and Reform, which received 44.45% of the vote and won 74 of the 132 seats, whilst the ruling Fatah received 41.43% of the vote and won 45 seats.[1]
If Israel stays true to their word, allow Palestinians to have some kind of autonomy, stays out of their imports/exports, etc… then I think Palestinians will be happy to steer away from Hamas
But if Israel continues to do what they’ve been doing for the last 70 years, then this conflict won’t change.
That being said, Israel has the option of genocide to end this conflict entirely, but it’s not going to lend well internationally (nor ethically)
As does Hamas (power to end the war) and there’s a treaty on the table to end it right now but we know they won’t accept it because peace is and never was their objective.
Peace doesn’t seem to be the objective anywhere but outside of the area so why should anyone outside of the area get dragged into a fight that’s not theirs?
