Antisemitism can't be ignored

Jews get accused of that as well.

The increase in antisemitism had been happening for a few years before October 7, 2023, I think most people didn’t notice it unless they wwre Jewish. It absolutely exploded into the consciousness after that.

I’d venture to guess that trans and lgbt also have felt an increase in hate due to the political climate. However, not sure if we can discuss it in a non-political way nor is it necessarily on topic for this thread. But yes, the pew information is interesting.

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Don’t forget there are the FBI statistics that back up the claim in the rise of anti-semitism.

Yeah, whats troubling is increase in Americans that now think it’s less. How we live in different worlds and see things is stunning. I generally trust Pew research, so it’s kinda hard for me to understand their results to be honest.

This is Exhibit A though Z for why we don’t all get along (along with too many who just flat refuse to want to get along) and why we can’t have nice things.

Too many people are under the spell of —they don’t look like me, think like me, believe like me, act like me, eat like me, cheer like me or don’t smoke the same cigarette like me — — they’re The Other.

Its almost like you want to wake these people up

But, but woke is a four letter word. No idea what it means but I was told it’s a four letter word and why isn’t banned on Coogfans?

The increased antisemitism is coming from of all places the Pride community and the BIPOC community.

Jews have been with these groups since at least the 1960s and now we see on college campuses it is these very groups attacking the Jews.

Look at the pictures it is the Trans and Non-Binaries leading the way.

It is really unbelievable if you understood pride rights in the Moslem and Arab world.

Harvey Milk is crying down from the heavens.

I took a long break from here and just read the 6/24-6/25 post so I will bite.

First of all, I am not antisemitic and not even against Israel (as a state). While you do have a lot of truths in your discourse, it’s hard to see much in the way of objectivity when you continue to paint Israel as a constant victim, even when many of their own decisions and actions are playing a large part in the continue saga in Gaza and Israel.

I think this has been covered ad nauseum, but every sane person has been steadfastly against the incursion and stood with Israel in protecting itself. What we’ve seen however, is a response that went beyond reasonable and transitioned into the pursuit of a a clear agenda; Israel using the incursion as an excuse to seize the Gaza strip and use the atrocities for gains that go beyond defense.

For all of the crying of Jewish oppression, the IDF has treated the Palestinians of the West Bank like pond scum for decades. This is something that was largely concealed and kept out of the public eye during the first 3 decades of occupation. Since the mid 90s, more and more stories, truths, and evidence have surfaced about the oppression, thievery, and treatment perpetrated by (some) Israelis and their government.

More or less, the oppression at the hands if the Israeli government is (at the very least) partly responsible for the very same terrorist groups they fighting against. Oppression and land stealing breeds discontent, prolonged discontent leads to extremism, and extremism leads to violence. Hamas is as large and dangerous as it is because of Israel’s (the government’s own stupidity).

You know the old addage ‘kill them with kindness’? Thats what Israel should have been doing for decades. If the neighbor with more money and power would stop stealing land and treat the average Palestinian with respect, Hamas would struggle to recruit. More Palestinians woild be compelled to turn in Hamas cells, and both sides collaborate to work toward peace. Its an ideology MLK had a great understanding of during the Civil Rights movement. Many world leaders, particularly Netanyahu, would benefit by taking a page from this book.

In summation, (almost) everyone thought the attack on innocent Israelis was terrible. Nobody agreed with that. That doesnt mean Israeli, as a government, bore no culpability into the lead up to an attack. Years of oppression and illegal Israeli settlements helped fuel the fire that was Hamas. Much like Fanta Menace and his mountain of proven lives, nobody is buying Netanyahus manipulation and sob story. He’s an awful leader who puts personal agenda above morality, reason, and even the law.

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Basically this times 1000.

Obviously, there is an undeniable association of Judaism and Israel. That can’t be refuted.

Unfortunately, just like we’ve seen domestically, unintelligent individuals are often incapabale of differentiating an association and a cause: Israel is comprised (largely) of Jews, therefore Jews are killing Palestinian children. In reality, a government and a leader is making decisions independent of the people.

Its no different than people hating Americans for the tariffs when the average American doesnt support and agree with it. Unfortunately social media has only increased polarity, especially when it comes to politics.

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That’s not a ‘protestor’. That’s a moron wanting attention.

Despicable and equally dangerous. Unfortunately social media will blow this up and thousands of other simps will join in the groupthink.

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Dude.

Every bit of increased anti-semitism is from those communities?

Blanket statements are dangerous and a lie. You can make every other point you make without painting everyone with a same brush.

They are not a monolith, as you are fond of saying.

Pride and Jews literally have nothing in common

Just because groups are victimized in some capacity doesn’t mean they are on the same team

There are very many catholic black and Hispanic people (I’m Hispanic myself) that are completely indifferent to both LGBTQ and Jewish People.

I still don’t understand what Lesbian or Gay people have in common with Trans people, nor non binary

And why would a man every stand up for women. We have nothing in common. And they’re always on a different team. I’m pretty much indifferent to all of them except the ones I’m related too

Women have always been subjected to control by men and still do to this day.

The institution of marriage itself is very patriarchal and has long-established gender-based roles.

Women had to fight for their own rights, but there’s also very many women who don’t want gender roles to be dismantled. Also, white women’s suffrage is not black women’s suffrage

Keep in mind - women entering the workplace has only benefited capitalism itself (largely dominated by men), and they still do not receive adequate PTO or parental leave benefits

Unless a woman comes from wealth to afford child care supplementally, it’s very difficult

They have discrimination in common. Every group that suffers from discrimination,
in it’s many forms, has that in common. In that sense, all marginalized groups, should be on the anti-discrimination “team”. If we don’t look out for each other and
insist on fairness, one day the mob will come for us.

But it is more complicated than that, in some instances, some groups are founded on the hate of other groups.

There are very many catholic black and Hispanic people (I’m Hispanic myself) that are completely indifferent to both LGBTQ and Jewish People.

Are you indifferent to the discrimination those 2 groups endure? I’m not a member of either those groups, but I would have to be blind ( or incapable of empathy) to
not be aware of it.

Never blame the victim. Do you blame the rape victim because of the clothes she wears? I know I’m a broken record, but Israel left Gaza in 2005. Gaza had the opportunity to live peacefully next door to Israel, but chose violence instead.

It’s a war. This is what you do. If Mexico started launching missles into the US, do you think we wouldn’t do whatever it took to stop the threat of attacks?

I know this sounds great in theory, but Hamas doesn’t believe in western values. While you try to “kill them with kindness”, they will kill you with guns, rockets, knives, bombs, etc.

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That is correct, and in many cases Jews (no matter their sexual preference) have been long time supporters of the Pride movement. So when these very same Pride movements decide to exclude LGBT Jews in the name of “social justice” over Israel (where you can freely be LGBT) while embracing Hamas, Palestine, Iran, etc. that are known for oppressing (and murdering) their own LGBT people, it is striking.

This is where you’re getting into more of opinion and politics that do not belong in this thread or on Coogfans. The purpose of this thread is to bring awareness to the many anti-Semitic incidents, especially violent ones, that have been going on in the last few years. The rise in anti-semitism goes back several years before October 7, 2023, and of course blew up more from there.

I really don’t want this thread to be about the war.

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Is it ok for a rape victim to kill or castrate the rapist? What would God, Jesus, Vishnu, or Buddha say about that? What does The Ten Commandments say about that?

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Who said anything about Palestine or Hamas?

Rape can’t always be proven, so legally, no it would not be right to castrate.