Global Jewish population at 15.8 million, still below pre-Holocaust levels, new data shows
Not exactly antisemitism related but interesting for contrast on how much hate there is for a small population.
That was an interesting read on the historical context of the anti Jewish hate.
Oddly enough it reminds me of the âWolf in the Foldâ episode on star trek TOSâŚ
Yes, there is something here. Something terrible. I feel its presence. Fear, anger, hatred. Anger feeds the flame. Oh! Oh! There is evil here. Monstrous, terrible evil. Consuming hunger. Hatred of all that lives. Hatred of women [Jews]. A hunger that never dies. It is strong, overpowering. An ancient terror. It has a name. Beratis, Kesla, Redjac! Devouring all life, all light. A hunger that will never die! Redjac! Redjac!
That episode was written by one Robert Bloch, who âwas born to parents of German-Jewish descent. While his parents were of Jewish heritage, they were not orthodox, and the family was described as culturally Jewish rather than religious.â
SoâŚdo these numbers include those that identify as âculturally Jewishâ or
only those that actively practice the faith ?
Not sure if I ever saw that episode. As to your other question, I donât know how they figured their methodology.
I would say that I think the majority of people who are more âculturally Jewishâ rather than actively practice would answer âJewishâ when asked about their religion so it likely is a count of both.
Attacks against Jews can start in most cases because you are by name identified as being Jewish. This is how EFFED up this is.
No whatâs effed up is it doesnât even need to be a name, it could be a look and it very well could be a misidentification of someone as âlooking Jewishâ or âsounding Jewishâ, etc.
Unfortunately that isnât something that just happens with antisemitism, any type of bigotry can come from that type of misidentification through stereotypes.
And, of course, sometimes itâs not antisemitism but simply being for human decency.
So, ramming Jews with your car, setting Jews on fire in Colorado, shooting Jews in DC, setting synagogues on fire, painting swastikas on temple doors is justified??? GTFOH
Today is Yom Hashoa (Holocaust Remembrance Day)
Today, as we remember the Holocaust, itâs worth pointing out that the Jewish population is only now approaching pre-Holocaust numbers.
⢠1939: 16.6 million
⢠1945: 11 million
⢠2025: 15.8 million
During the Holocaust: ~34% of the global Jewish population systematically exterminated.
Never forget!
Are you replying to me, and if so, where in my list did I say or even imply, any of that?
Two bad things can be true at once, in case you werenât aware.
@TheMandell Youâre using an awful incident from Israeli forces to justify antisemetic attacks on Jews in the USA or other countries?
By saying, hey sometimes its not antisemitism but its about human decency but not giving specific incidents of where it wasnât antisemitism is actually you saying hey Jews deserve it.
Iâve been pretty intentional about posting incidents that were clearly antisemetic, and not just people who were anti-war or outraged at Israeli government/military actions. I did that intentionally so there would be no confusion. Unfortunately, you donât see it that way. At least, in the way you framed your post you do not see it that way. You basically are blaming all Jews in the diaspora for actions of Israel that they have no control, vote, or say about and may even condemn themselves.
Its in the context, you didnât have to specifically say it. However, hereâs an opportunity, explain yourselfâŚ
what point were you making in a thread about antisemitism by posting about an awful incident from Israel and saying âhey sometimes it isnât about antisemitismâ? Because it sure seems like youâre saying Jews are bad.
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No, I am not. You read something into my post that is clearly not there. Thatâs on you, not me.
Israel has and continues to do horrible things. Thatâs a fact. Hiding behind antisemitism attacks to ignore or justify wrongdoing isnât a strategy that should be attempted but is on a regular basis here.
Thatâs my point.
Bull. No one has done that here. That is you reading something that is not there.
So, was still mulling this over and came across this figure of âover 20 million.â
Still a very small number. All depends on who is doing the counting and the methodology being used. This is not a refutation or challenge to whatâs been
posted, but more a statement of the inherent problems in all the counting
data involving people. Totally happy with the 15 million claim; just a little
fascinated how we humans struggle with âcountingâ.
New terms (to me) of âEnlarged Populationâ, âConnectedâ, âlaw of returnâ and
aforementioned âculturally Jewishâ. So range is less than 15 million or 15.8 to 25.5 million.
AI âslopâ
- Enlarged Population: If including individuals with partial Jewish heritage (defined by âright of returnâ laws), the population reaches over 20 million.
- Historical Trends: The Jewish population in Europe has declined to roughly 1.3 million.
World Population Review +
Non AIâŚ
The number of Jews worldwide rises to 18 million if the âconnectedâ Jewish population is added. âConnectedâ Jews includes those who say they are partly Jewish or that have Jewish backgrounds from at least one Jewish parent. The number rises to 21 million if the âenlargedâ Jewish population. This includes those who say they have Jewish backgrounds but no Jewish parents and all non-Jewish household members who live with Jews. If you throw in people eligible for Israeli citizenship under Israelâs Law of Return â defined as anyone with at least one Jewish grandparent, and who does not profess any other religion â the number rises to 25.5 million. The number of Jews would shrink below 15 million if a tighter definition â such as an unbroken line of matrilineal Jewish descent â were imposed. [Source: Wikipedia, 2024]
The definition of a Jew is hotly contested issue in Israel. Traditionally, children of Jewish mothers have been recognized as Jewish. Conservative Jews insist that this is not enough: a true Jew is someone who keeps Jewish law and obeys the commandments. "Whoever saves a single Jew,â reads the Babylonian Talmud. "Scripture ascribes it to him as though he had saved an entire world.â
Some groups also accept children of Jewish fathers as Jewish. American reformed Judaism recognizes patrilineal descent. The State of Israel grants citizenship under the law of return to people with a single Jewish grandparent. Conservative Jews Chas Chabadniks accept only the Talmudic rule that a Jew is anyone born to a Jewish mother, or someone who has undergone an Orthodox conversion and agreed to keep all 613 Jewish laws. A Jew traditionally canât lose his or her technical âstatusâ of being a Jew by adopting another faith, but they do lose the religious element of their Jewish identity. Someone who isnât born a Jew can convert to Judaism, but it is not easy to do so."
Yes I was replying to you. Since you posted this in the anti-Semitism thread it definitely sounded to me like you were justifying anti-Semitic attacks.
Also yes, both are wrong.
Interesting. I do disagree with some of the items, but as we like to say, you can put 3 Jewish people in a room and have 4 different opinions. 
Converting to Reform Judaism isnât THAT hard.
One of my aunts did it.
Itâs an 18 month to 2 year process.
While Judaism doesnât appear to proselytize the way that a lot of other religions do, it DOES accept converts.
Zelensky signs a tough anti-Semitism law in Ukraine.
The level of difficulty kinda depends on who is doing the conversion. A reform conversion will be âeasierâ than from a Conservative Rabbi, which could be âeasierâ than from an Orthodox Rabbi.
There are some Orthodox Jews that do not recognize somebody who did not go through an Orthodox conversion to be Jewish. Itâs nuts.
Youâre right about your last point. We donât recruit, but we make darn sure you want to do it and for the right reasons. Some Rabbis wonât do it if the reason is solely for marriageâŚor if youâre doing it for the jokes (Seinfeld reference)