Article on ND joining Big 12

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Haha no way this happens. This is just off season muck. :yum:

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These guy’s are click bait hounds and clowns wouldn’t take anything they say seriously


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This is a media trick by our entertainment big 12 president.

Either smoke and mirrors or trying to stay relevant during a dead period.

Instead of talking about OSu,UT, Ga, bama or 

 we are talking about the big 12.

There is nothing of substance here.

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What do you guys think if say the ACC broke out and ND agreed to come be the flagship with a slightly unequal share to get it’s money closer to the SEC B1G? would it be worth to what could be a 20 strong conference with ND being it’s flagship. Especially if you keep the contract difficult for them to abandon ship

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Please NO
.we just got rid of one school full of themselves (ut), don’t add another.

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If we could get ND, plus one or more of the other ACC big brands (Clemson, FSU, Miami, UNC, etc)., then I think we’d be stupid
NOT to do exactly that
IF that’s the only way we can reel in ND together with those other teams.

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I agree. The extra revenue and eyeballs some of these schools would bring would make up the unequal shares and the other big12 teams would end up winning with stability and relevancy. Not mention we’d all make more.

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That’s just next year.

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ND will join the Big 12 if all the following happen:

  1. Pigs start flying
  2. Hell freezes over
  3. A Jew is elected pope
  4. A Black, Muslim woman is elected President of the USA.
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Probably. I think that was espn / fox capping pro rata at 4 schools more than anything else.

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The Big 12 just got rid of a couple of fat attention grabbing hogs to replace them with an even fatter attention grabbing hog? LMAO! NFW.

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The Catholics have the POPE backing them up. I figure they will do whatever they want.

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This is the only way ND joins the Big 12, and it’s a huge IF

  1. ACC would have to collapse just like the PAC 12 or lose its autonomy status
  2. Big 12 has to have the same # of autobids for the CFP as SEC & B1G
  3. ND for whatever reason decides against joining B1G
  4. ND would have to be UNABLE to schedule more than 6 B1G or SEC teams each year if they decided to stay independent (at least 2 must be blue bloods for SOS purposes such as USC & Texas)
  5. ND gets to continue their own media deal with NBC along with receiving full ESPN/FOX shares upon joining Big 12

ALL of that would literally be the absolute minimum required for ND to join Big 12

@uhlaw97 thoughts

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All those points are valid, but wildcards include the new TNT money, as the article points out, and any private equity Yormark might bring in.

ND will probably not give the idea serious thought unless and until they miss the playoffs.

As long as they make the playoffs, they can make more money off it than anybody.

But miss the playoffs
.and they’ll make less off it than the last place Big 12 or ACC team.

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But the caveat is that if the ACC does eventually start losing valuable teams (talking FSU, Clemson, UNC, Miami, Louisville, etc), then how is ND going to schedule teams as an independent?

Less than half of ND’s schedule is against B1G teams + Navy. The remainder is ACC via contractual obligation.

If there aren’t any ACC teams to fill out their schedule, then who is ND going to be able to schedule games against? They played 3 B1G teams and 1 SEC team this year, the rest was ACC + Miami (OH) & NIU.

The B1G isn’t going to configure its own in-conference scheduling year in year out just to appease a school that’s not even in its conference, that school being ND.

tldr: ND would literally be forced to join a conference, or else they will have to schedule 3-5 B1G or SEC schools with the remaining being G5 schools because the B1G already has too many in-conference teams

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IF, and I mean IF that happens I want a Holy Trophy like the Commander-in-chief one where every year we get ND-BYU-Baylor play.

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Remember when ND was a basketball memeber of the Big East? I read this article today about how several teams leaving the big east has had a negative effect on their programs. It’s from 2021. Maybe Big 12 bball looks better for them?

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Don’t go off on typos
2036 is much more than next year.

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They will never be invited to join the Big12. They aren’t AAU members.

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It does not seem right for ND to get 100% for payoffs where other schools have to share with conference. ND should get a payout average of what the school in conference get, and put the extra in a kitty to payout future playoffs.

Why would they have incentive to ever join a conference? They also make money from their own media agreement.

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