Wake me up when the PAC actually takes them.
I suspect I’ll sleep soundly.
I personally don’t think that that will happen unless the PAC loses more schools, and even if it happens in that case, it’ll be proof that the PAC is TOAST and has no choice but to abandon its principles and essentially relegate itself to a “G” level conference.
It’s just like the AAU thing with the B1G.
It isn’t written down anywhere.
But anyone with an IQ over 75 knows.
The B1G doesn’t invite non-AAU members other than ND before they became AAU, and now that ND is AAU, they won’t even vet, much less invite a non-AAU member. Need proof? All the schools that they have reportedly vetted for membership are AAU members.
For the PAC, the unofficial/unwritten requirement is R1 and secular.
If that weren’t the case, then they would have invited BYU eons ago.
I thought it was interesting that the timing for Notre Dame applying for AAU status was similar to B1G vetting.
LAW, you keep.on avoiding our question.
Would a scenario where UH ended up in the PAC, as a P4, AND eliminated 3-5 current P5 schools (i.e WVU, Baylor, ISU, etc.) AND prevented the promotion of 3 other G5s ( UCF, UC, BYU) be a better scenario than what we got in the Big 12 WITH the promotion of 4 G5s and possibly 2 more if the PAC adds SDSU & SMU.
I know your argument is going to be that the Big 12 has more in-state rivals BUT TTU & TCU would ALSO have moved to the PAC in that scenario.
Yes, the Big 12 is our home but the PAC raiding the Big 12 PLUS UH would have been the better fate for us and there isnt even an argument against it.
The current arrangement created MORE competition for us!!!
It baffles me why y’all are arguing over things that NEVER happened. Just egos getting tattered.
Your hypo involves too many implausible what ifs.
WHAT IF the PAC invited R2 schools and religious schools???
WHAT IF the PAC which had just said no to four secular R1 P5 brands instead invited a lower brand G5 and a R2 religious school???
No.
Sorry.
Everyone knows that those were impossible/implausible scenarios.
They are the leader because that is what the Kansas City newspaper called them…i read a whole bunch about Big 12 in that paper at the time…feel free to read them…
Are you replying to the first paragraph or the UH entry part?
If the first part, a paper in Kansas says a Kansas team is the leader means absolutely nothing. Have a consensus outside the state consider them that. Otherwise they have not been dominant in anyway other than their fans minds of thinking they are the dominant team in the conference historically speaking.
If the second part, not sure what the paper said about UH entry.
Dang SDSU screwed up.
Big 12 ain’t interested.
Good.
I’ve said no G5s all along.
Read on.
Agree & here’s a possible saving scenario:
1 or 2 or 4 of the PAC12 4-corners schools jump to the BIG12 after deciding the PAC12 TV deal will be substantially less the BIG12’s. They could do this anytime before next July 1.
This creates an opening for SDSU in the PAC12 which ‘holds its nose’ and invites them.
Disaster averted.
Get your tickets now for the “Best of the Rest” Bowl Game between what’s left of the PAC12 and MWC! When those two play, you can throw out the record books.
So is there a correlation between tv ratings and stadium capacity? Maybe the two are viewed in conjunction as a “fan apathy” rating. But it seems to me that things are trending to where people would just rather watch the game at home. I don’t see why an ESPN-type would care much for stadium attendance. Seems that they’d prefer more butts on couches. The conference may care a bit more if they’re getting a cut of tickets sales.
I think the future of college sports is creating a smaller, more luxurious venue experience for those attending, and a more engaging experience for those at home. That’s why I really like the new luxury box stadium upgrades. If I could just get a splash pad so my kids could go play while I watch the game in peace from my seat, I’d be happy.
While SDSU won’t make a lot of money they’re path to the NY 6 is much easier where they are. Its really a five team race: SDSU, Fresno, Memphis, Boise, and Tulane.
Great observation and true.
Top 25 AP rankings, from 1949-2023 with 25 points awarded for a 1st place finish, 24 for 2nd, etc.
AP Poll: 1949 to 2023 Final All-Time College Basketball Rankings
Current Big 12 Members in Bold
Near Term Expansion Possibilities in Italics
1 Kentucky 1082
2 North Carolina 944
3 Duke 935
4 Kansas 879
5 UCLA 751
6 Louisville 518
7 Arizona 493
8 Indiana 453
9 Michigan State 416
10 Ohio State 415
11 Syracuse 403
12 Cincinnati 400
13 Michigan 398
14 Illinois 394
15 Villanova 387
16 Notre Dame 358
17 Purdue 347
18 Marquette 331
19 Maryland 314
20 Gonzaga 302
21 UConn 287
22 Georgetown 286
23 Oklahoma 283
T24 Utah 271
T24 Arkansas 271
26 NC State 266
27 Kansas State 262
28 Iowa 255
29 Virginia 252
30 UNLV 248
T31 Oklahoma State 240
T31 West Virginia 240
T33 St. John’s 232
T33 Alabama 232
35 Memphis 230
T36 Bradley 214
T36 Wake Forest 214
38 Houston 208
39 DePaul 197
40 Missouri 196
41 Wisconsin 190
42 Pitt 189
43 Tennessee 184
44 Texas 181
45 Florida 179
46 Florida State 159
T47 LSU 157
T47 San Francisco 157
49 Stanford 151
50 Minnesota 150
ok and ut technically still members.
I feel bad for the Aztecs. This could easily be us, and kind of was not so long ago. Who knows what the PAC-12 told them. The best thing they can do is keep working on what they can control and building their value.
I would love to see the Pac add SDSU and someone like CO State or Nevada, leave SMU hanging.
Agree. If I were running the PAC-12 I would bring in UNLV and SDSU in a heartbeat, academics be darned.
Why UNLV and not the flagship, Nevada?
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