Well judging by the last 2 years, anything can happen.
Not even a year ago did anyone expect Utah and Arizona State to be in the Big 12, and even less so, Stanford Cal and SMU in the ACC.
Who cares if Clemson leaves, however they manage to even do so. They will either pay double digit millions for attorney fees or pay triple digits to buy their way out while also forfeiting TV revenue from the SEC.
ACC will still survive without them. Same goes for FSU and UNC.
Those 3 schools are the only ones with certainty landing spots in the P2. Everyone else doesnât have certainty, but by adding Stanford Cal and SMU, their conference DOES have certainty of surviving.
As Iâve said, I donât see that happening simply because there are now too many networks, i.e., content providers, in too great a need of content.
Even if 48 schools did break away to form a âsuper conference,â consider this.
Each week, at least one or two teams would be idle, so at the most, you are probably looking at 20-21 matchups max per week.
Youâve got at least four ESPN networks, all the regular TV networks, plus FS1, FS2, CBS Sports networkâŠetc, etc, etc, ⊠all of which may want to show up to three games per week.
That amounts to a lot more than 20-21 matchups.
That means, certainly, that there will have to be more than 48 teams competing at the highest level. Probably more like 70ishâŠand I canât imagine that that will result in fewer than three conferences.
And hereâs the other thing.
If you had a super-league of 48 teams, it would still have parasites, especially in the B1G. To make that a truly âsuperâ league, youâd have to kick out some of those parasites and replace themâŠthat is to sayâŠif you really want to make the most money possible.
I wouldnât put money on that.
Not if have the schools vote to dissolve the conference, and move to one of the other three.
The ACC may survive in such a scenario, but the remaining schools will all be brands that are too small to truly get a âpowerâ conference level TV deal.
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Responding to both of your above posts - you have to keep in mind that we are most likely talking the 2030s.
The TV landscape could be much different. The only networks that matter as of now are FOX / ESPN. Other networks can be negotiated.
That being said - the future of sports and TV in general is most likely going to be streaming. Apple and Amazon could potentially buy ESPN or FOX Sports in the future.
As I continue to say - nobody knows what it will look like, but at the same time, we canât simply deny scenarios either.
Regarding the ACC dissolving - again, the ACC teams not named Clemson, FSU and UNC will get the revenue those 3 schools get from whichever new conference they join until 2036. They give that up plus exit fees if they dissolve the ACC. It makes zero sense to join the Big 12 in this scenario because their TV deal is still active, unlike the PAC scenario where they didnât have a TV deal in place which is why it made sense to leave.
There are really on 15 or so top brands then they lose too much hurting the brand. College football isnât the nfl, brands want to dominate. What made usc or OU or Lsu etc? Wins
And yrs law was right Acc will lose the big brands
I agree some viewers like college football. I do.
I donât think the egos of the powers that be see it that way. I think they believe that they will still earn all the viewer ratings as SEC and B1G fans are all that count. They will still form an NFL like situation and form their own tier or breakaway.
I like it as I expect it will fail as all other NFL lite type things have done. And in the meantime all the college football fans can go back to actual college football with our conferences and not have to waste time on whether a high salary pro team will have all the advantages while playing in the same level as all the college teams.
Also itâs gonna be interesting to see some sec teams start to lose too much bc they have too many good schools. Someone has to lose more than they want vs past history.
The ACC is going to survive until at least 2030 even if the 3 blue bloods leave. As Iâve said for the millionth time - thatâs the reason they invited Stanford, Cal and SMU.
Once the ACC GOR expires in 2036, then yes, the ACC will most likely dissolve.
Either the SEC/B1G pickup more ACC schools + Notre Dame, or the ACC and Big 12 have some kind of merger (except for Notre Dame)
The problem is a super league of whichever participants one chooses leaves out roughly 70% of college football fans. Those people are not going to watch Alabama and Michigan and Texas play every week. They donât care about them. College football needs linear exposure, not concentrated exposure.
Even now, at 9pm on a Saturday evening I cannot force myself to watch more than 8-10 minutes of Washington vs Arizona. It just does not appeal to me. Even though it will be the last game to watch for the weekend.
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Acc will survive and be power 4 just weakened so it will be the weakest in the end. Big12 3rd best
You want a 4th conference. Adds gravitas to your own league because you arenât drinking from hind teta.
Exactly, Iâll tune out and watch âinclusiveâ nfl games vs watching UT.
Money will go down and backlash and lawsuits.
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It doesnât matter whoâs stronger or weaker when it comes to the Big 12 vs. ACC, because even without the blue bloods, both conferences are roughly the same value.
It really comes down to timing and who gets a TV deal first. The Big 12âs TV deal expires I believe in 2031. Once that day comes, itâs possible the ACC poaches teams from the Big 12 if Clemson, FSU and UNC are gone by then.
And the haters?!?!
OMG! That monstrosity will be a PR nightmare.
By the time clemson leaves the ACC schools like WVU will have 20+ years of collecting excellent paychecks from the B12. I doubt they jump into the disintegrating quagmire of a depleted ACC.
Yep I think the ACC will survive. They have been taking notes from the Pac 12 and Big 12 of what to do and not to do.
By adding Stanford, Cal and SMU, they have soften the blow if the big brands leave.
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Itâs not just softening the blow - they pretty much legally made it impossible for ESPN to renegotiate their TV deal (i.e. lower the payouts) while also making it much more difficult for the blue bloods to leave.
The ACC won that entire scenario regardless if the blue bloods leave. People here donât seem to understand this lol
Remember when UTah got their legislator involved.
Imagine 50 schools doing that
It would be a s.,t storm of lawsuits
Too many left out
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Legislators ainât gonna do squat dude. This isnât the 80s/90s
I wouldnât go that far.