Blue Bloods Breakdown

Abdul-Jabbar had the no dunk rule thrown on him.

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I have never heard that the NC St. vs UH finals triggered the college basketball shot clock, even though they are a few years apart. The clamor for shot clock began in the 1970s, as a result of the “four corners offense”, which Dean Smith and NC ran to perfection. They could kill the clock for minutes, just by spacing and passing. It was very frustrating to watch, if you were playing against it.

The start of the Shot clock in CBB can definitely be attributed to Dean Smith n his 4 corners stall tactics while HC @ UNC .

The shot clock started in 1985. It may have gained impetus from NCST-UH, but it wasn’t implemented for another year.

I remember Duke and UNC playing once and the halftime score was 7-0. When UNC had a lead and 12 minutes to go, you got four corners for 12 minutes.

Wilt Chamberlain was so dominant, the NCAA implemented rules to stop him: releasing free throws from behind the free throw line, widening the lane, basket interference.

Will they shorten the shot clock to 24 seconds? The NBA instituted the shot clock so each team could average 60 possessions if they ran to down all the way. In college, it would be 50 possessions.

I always liked the old NBA rules for the bonus, three shots to make two or two shots to make one. Would cut down on the foul-a-rama. They got rid of it in the early 80’s. Could help our Coogs if implemented


I think what the NC State game did was put the bonus after 10 fouls rule into place. The intentional fouls made that game pretty awful to watch from a neutral standpoint. We all remember the close score and painful ending but the game itself was UGLY compared to the semis vs Louisville.

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Yep. Google confirms the double bonus was added the year after Valvano’s “foul for profit” final four.

Which likely means we’d have won that game a year later with two shots at FTs. It’s hard being a Coog!

I seem to recall a Texas @ UH men’s basketball game that ended in something like a 16 to 14 score. I think it was GuyV that called for 4 corners for the entire game, but it might have been both teams. (Abe Lemings maybe?) Seems like the Ron Baxter years at UT.

Some of that may be wrong but I am certain neither team reached 20.

I forgot to mention that as well. UH has a rich history, there is no denying.

The shot clock was implemented in college basketball as a direct result of the Villanova-Georgetown national championship game.

I’ve been around a long time and I do not recall any game like that, especially with Ron Baxter.

You sure the basket wasn’t a peach crate?

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Same. I thk some of us would have remembered. Esp if it was the Horns.

I haven’t read most of this thread but i love commenting.

My workplace has a NCAA bracket league I’ve been in five years or so, about 50-150 people in it each year (it’s kinda dying out).

There’s been only one entry in 5 years, apart from mine every year, that has ever had UH beat their seeding position. It’s been common to see people pick UH to lose their seed.

On the other hand, there were a handful of idiots who had UNC in their final four last year.

When UH gets that kind of cred from randoms across the country, I will say we are a blue blood. Until then, it may be something we think we have earned, but it still won’t be true

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Great. Now we are defining Blue Bloods by your company’s NCAA brackets.

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Hmm. You are correct, I would find it very hard to define blue blood without including national reputation.

I have no idea what a so called “blue blood” even is. To me it sounds like a bunch of old money snooty rich families. As for tradition it’s Kansas, Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky and UCLA.

And Indiana.

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I must be way wrong as I can’t find any evidence of it.

Not sure what is coming to my mind. Thinking it was a game in Hoffheinz, late 70’s, Texas vs UH
 something I listened to on the radio and one team bleeding the clock literally to keep the scoring as described. 16-14 still sticks in my mind.

Obviously nothing I can find fits that at all. Alternate universes I guess or too many head injuries. Or maybe that was just the first half
or a dream. Sorry, again I must be completely wrong.

Just found this thread.

Is UCLA a blue blood? History says yes. But their current fanbase says no. Fanbase should factor into blue blood status

ehog, said it best. If you asked non-UH fans are we a blue blood? It would be a no

We played in Conference USA and the American. Since the year 2000, we’ve made 5 NCAA tournaments.

Sampson has been great. But i compare his run to Caliparis at Memphis. 2 Elite 8s. A Final Four. A sweet 16. Very similar

Calipari leaves. Josh Pastner takes over and they become average Memphis again

We need a title. We need to be in the Big 12
 Very difficult to be a “blue blood” in a crappy conference

@Section102 i would say 5 bluebloods.

Duke
North Carolina
Kansas
Kentucky
Indiana

But none of those runs compare to Wooden’s run at UCLA.

UCLA is unquestionably a blue blood.

Indiana is a little more debatable due to their current two decade long run of non-success. They are more like Nebraska in football. A FORMER blue blood.

At least UCLA has been to a Final Four as recently as we have and is currently ranked in the Top Ten.

That never happened in a UH/Sip Game. I remember in the SWC Tournament in 1977(?) that TCU got the opening tip against UH, and held the ball for 7-8 minutes before the Coogs said enough, hit them with a full court press, and went on to score over a 100 points in the game. Also, remember a UNC/Duke game about the same era where UNC ran the 4 corners the whole first half, and went to halftime down 7-0. They played normal in the second half, and the game ended up 47-40 Duke. Possibly might’ve been one of these games you were remembering?