xsmithcoog116
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I don’t think we’ve regularly handled SMU and Tulsa, the past few seasons have been relatively even. The interesting thing is those two teams in particular were the examples of AAC teams playing Big 12 teams competitively that came to mind.
After the year 2014, either the recruiting services got lazy, there is a new abundance of overall HS recruit talent, or I’m losing my mind. Probably the latter. lol
But I swear there has to have been a shift. In the past teams who normally scrape the bottom of the barrel in talent have become tremendously competitive with anyone they play.
I think the talent coming out of the portal has more to do with that than coaching; that’s why we’ll be able to line up with Big 12 schools. We’ve made some leveling moves via the transfer portal.
You missed the sarcasm. Surprise. I’m fully aware of our difficulties with those teams.
Since 2000 Tulsa has 0 wins vs B12, averaging about 1 game per year vs B12. 75% of those losses were beach slaps.
Since 2000 SMU has 5 wins vs B12, 4 vs TCU and 1 vs Kansas when they truly were the dregs.
Outside of that, averaging about 2 games per year vs B12, 75% of their losses were beach slaps Parr 2.
The point being is we’re no longer playing AAC on a weekly basis with a “breather” or two in between challenging AAC games.
There are no breathers in the B12.
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You’re making two different arguments.
You went from calling teams passes(who were not passes), to saying there are no passes. The basis for my argument is that we never had any passes/breathers in the AAC for the past 5 or so seasons.
You also are quoting W-L percentage of AAC vs Big 12 schools as the only metric to gauge competitiveness. Summaries are free and easy to find on YouTube. In my most recent memory Tulsa and SMU were “in” those games until late.
That’s not a talent issue. I’ll post a few, but something tells me your mind is made up and will remain petrified of the indominable Big 12. lol
Wow you picked 2 games out. I reviewed over 20 years of results. Reread the cumulative stats I cited.
Thinking that playing AAC weekly is close to B12 weekly is folly he said nicely. I stated SMU and Tulsa as examples of mid-level AAC that we haven’t dominated, and they haven’t faired well in over two decades vs B12. About 75% of the time having it handed to them. 5 wins by SMU (1 over Kansas when they really blew) and none by Tulsa in about 60 games combined for both schools vs B12.
So being how we’ve handled them so well, our debut in the B12 should go swimmingly. You are incorrect on facts and unable to detect sarcasm.
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Yea I think you just want to argue. lol Nothing you said disproved anything I stated.
Us not dominating SMU and Tulsa (which were your go-to wins) doesn’t prove we won’t be competitive. It strengthens my second point in which I plainly alluded to us not being used to a easy schedule.
Said schedule is not a huge step up from our current, given how close SMU and Tulsa played Big 12 teams recently. So no, we’re no strangers to good competition. Might wanna keep the pretentiousness. SMU and Tulsa have good D1 players too.
Lastly, notice I brought up recent results, because it only takes ONE year to change an entire football program…ask Sonny Dykes and the transfer portal. Not sure why you wanna go back 20 years. Not calling CDH Dykes, but I think we’ve addressed our issues via the portal as well.
Try keeping up with the logic of the results of the 2 mid level AAC schools I cited over the span of over 2 decades playing B12 schools (2 schools we haven’t handled). That’s a true sample size. Playing close 25% of the time? And even then “moral victories” when I’m sure the other team is pumped to play them?
You even reach to post graphics of a win and near win. Oh, looky the picture. Colors!
I hope we fare well, but your conference comparison is way off base.
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I don’t think my conference comparison is way off base. I think you love history, and don’t understand how football rosters work. Especially in the fact that they change yearly and we don’t need Andre Ware to come out of the tunnel to be competitive.
I also think you’re obsessed with believing we’re so much better than the two teams we “haven’t handled”. You looking down on them by assuming we should be whooping them, has little to no bearing on reality.
Reality - Tulsa and SMU aren’t the most consistent of programs, but they recruit and sign the same type of players we do. They also recruit and sign the same type of players most of the Big 12 does; aside from OU and horn.
Plot twist…being competitive does not always mean winning. Somehow that’s lost on you. So yes, moral victories count. A lot can be taken from just watching the game.
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lol False Dichotomy if I ever seen one. If the games are close, then technically, we were competitive. Winning and competitiveness are not mutually exclusive. I think you need to change your definition of what it means to compete. I also never said the goal isn’t to win!
Your statements regarding SMU and Tulsa were addressed. You just didn’t get the answer you wanted. Please don’t talk about logic. Your posts are riddled with fallacies.
Since we’ve devolved to images:
“Gather around kids, let me tell you the ghost story about how all the big bad Big 12 bullies of teams in the past, channeled their energy into their alma matter and kept the Coogs from winning in 2023. It all started about 20 years ago…”
And please delineate every aspect of the fallacies I promoted re SMU and Tulsa. You stated it now prove it. I used empirical data. You’re just blowing hot air.
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xsmithcoog116
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You’ve extrapolated empirical data. Know the difference. lol This was fun.
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Duce630
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This thread has sprawled away from the talk of this recruit. Start some new threads for those topics, people.
I have said many times in the run-up to B12 that UH will do just fine ! These are the same nervous emotions we had going into the SWC and see how that turned out .
