@Kyle_Be_Coogin creating the tiers was tough.
Some darn good players on that $2 & $3 line
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A lot of steals on the list. You could probably win the AAC with just the $1 line.
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Out of this list of top 25 best Coogs under Sampson:
High School: 12
Transfers: 11
Juco: 2
Not including Mills, Tramon, Arceneaux. All high school guys. If they would’ve stayed all 3 would be on this list
i love milos… no way is he $4 and dejon is $3, hinton and edwards is #2 …maybe after this coming season, but just last season?.. even at the same price, im taking hinton and dejon over milos… based on their last season… i think that changes after this season… but thats projection… gorham started on the final 4 team
making the best cohesive team with the listed prices with a cap at $15
#1 pick) dejon , at $3 is a discount - other post season pgs are too expensive
#2 Pick) need a center – Francis, insane discount at $1 (difference want that big from tugler last season) BUT im going carlton for making the complete team and offense $3
the skillset of those 2 players, now shape the rest of the team, need shooters with $9 to spend
#3) grimes at the 2 $5
#4) gorham at the 4 $1
#5) Hinton at the 3 $2
- get bench with francis for $1
@pesik certainly some recency bias. As i have 3 current players on the $4 line.
My memory of Dejon was non shooter. Great defender. His 3 yrs as a Coog, over 1 up & down season from Milos. I can see your point there. Dejon had great games as a scorer too
There’s certainly a couple i could be persuaded on
Shead - $5
Grimes - $5
Roberts - $3
Brooks - $2
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$5 - Shead
$4 - Tugler
$2 - Taze
$2 - Armoni
$1 - Gorham
Or i could swap Gorham to Nate Hinton. And play small ball
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@pesik Kyler Edwards shot 37% overall his senior yr as Coog.
Probably due to us having no bench that season. Tired legs. Had some big games in the NCAA tournament, 100%
But Kyler should be higher? Besides Milos, any others you think should be lower
Its difficult. After Shead, Sasser, Grimes, Rob Gray & I would put LJ. After that, its very objective
are we using their entire tenure r just their very last seasn and how they looked then
senior dejon imo is better at everything than junior milos except shooting… obviously shooting is big but milos wasnt high volume enough to jump every thing else
defense, rebounding, playmaking, driving, steals, blocks…
milos is more careful with the ball… but to me thats not a pro or con, but different styles - less turnovers but less big changing plays
again i think milos will be better than dejon next season, just going by what their last seasons were
sharp, love sharp… but hasn’t even been all -conference yet on any team… again will change next year
jarace, love jarace… but everyone on $3 line over jarace… just based on their last season with us
Its hard to project, cause some of these players were dominating in the AAC
And now we’ve seen Sharp, 2 yrs in the Big 12. Not All Conference yet. But if he was still in the American, hed probably be 1st team or 2nd team already
Jarace- only 1 yr. Not dominant at Houston. But its hard to not see what hes doing in the NBA. And not factor that in some.
Only reason he wasn’t all-conference last season is because he got injured and tried to play through it…
People don’t give JWalk his due credit for his frosh season here… Dude was a beast.
one of the most underrated players is Armoni Brooks, he was going to have a big senior year but unexpectedly left. He was shooting at a 40% clip from 3 on volume shooting. To me he is the best shooter in the Sampson era. True Sniper. Also he was a good rebounder for his size averaging over 6 rebs his last year.
Again my squad would win a lot of games rebounding, defending, 3pt shooting and scoring. Weakness no true post scoring but the team could drive and touch the paint and create with Deeky and Grimes. Then a bunch of offensive rebounding on miss shots and the defense holding opponents to one shot due to defensive rebounding which each player can rebound.
Deeky
Armoni
Grimes
Gorham
Tugler
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Here’s a direct head-to-head projection between Lineup A and Lineup B, using each player’s last season at the University of Houston.
Lineup A (Final UH Season Stats)
| Player | PPG | RPG | APG | SPG/BPG | FG% | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DeJon Jarreau (2020-21) | 10.6 | 5.4 | 4.6 | 1.3 SPG | 44.9% | AAC DPOY, versatile playmaker |
| Armoni Brooks (2018-19) | 13.4 | 6.3 | 0.9 | 1.0 SPG | 39.0% | Elite shooter (39.6% 3PT), spacing |
| Quentin Grimes (2020-21) | 17.8 | 5.7 | 2.0 | 1.4 SPG | 40.6% | Go-to scorer, AAC Co-POY |
| Justin Gorham (2020-21) | 8.4 | 8.6 | 1.2 | 0.7 SPG | 49.8% | Undersized PF, elite rebounder |
| Joseph Tugler (2023-24) | 6.2 | 5.9 | 0.9 | 1.4 BPG | 52.3% | Freshman rim protector |
TOTAL (avg.):
PPG: 56.4 | RPG: 32.0 | APG: 9.6
Lineup B (Final UH Season Stats)
| Player | PPG | RPG | APG | SPG/BPG | FG% | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jamal Shead (2023-24) | 12.9 | 3.7 | 6.3 | 2.2 SPG | 40.9% | Big 12 POY & DPOY, floor general |
| Nate Hinton (2019-20) | 10.6 | 8.7 | 1.6 | 1.4 SPG | 41.0% | Energy wing, elite rebounder |
| Jarace Walker (2022-23) | 11.2 | 6.8 | 1.8 | 1.3 BPG | 46.5% | Athletic, two-way combo forward |
| J’Wan Roberts (2023-24) | 10.6 | 6.5 | 1.8 | 1.1 BPG | 49.0% | Veteran leader, interior presence |
| Ja’Vier Francis (2023-24) | 5.1 | 4.4 | 0.2 | 1.0 BPG | 60.8% | Efficient finisher, rim protection |
TOTAL (avg.):
PPG: 50.4 | RPG: 30.1 | APG: 11.7
Head-to-Head Breakdown
Scoring
- Lineup A has more pure scoring from Grimes (17.8) and Brooks (13.4), while Jarreau adds double digits.
- Lineup B is more balanced, but lower peak output.
→ Edge: Lineup A
Shooting & Spacing
- Lineup A: Brooks (39.6% 3PT) and Grimes (40.3% 3PT) stretch the floor.
- Lineup B: More slashing/inside scoring; lacks elite outside shooters.
→ Edge: Lineup A
Playmaking
- Lineup B: Shead (6.3 APG) dominates as primary ball handler; strong secondary passing from Roberts and Walker.
- Lineup A: Jarreau (4.6 APG) is strong, but Shead is better; Grimes and Brooks were not facilitators.
→ Edge: Lineup B
Defense
- Lineup B: Shead (2.2 SPG), Hinton (size/rebounding), Walker/Roberts/Francis = switchable defenders + rim protection.
- Lineup A: Jarreau elite defender, Tugler a shot-blocker, but Brooks/Grimes were more offensive.
→ Edge: Lineup B
Rebounding
- Lineup A: Gorham (8.6), Brooks (6.3), Grimes (5.7)
- Lineup B: Hinton (8.7), Walker (6.8), Roberts (6.5)
→ Slight edge to Lineup B for bigger, more athletic front line.
Projected Winner: Lineup B by a Close Margin
While Lineup A has better scoring talent and shooting, Lineup B holds the edge in:
- Playmaking (Shead)
- Defense (Walker/Hinton/Francis)
- Rebounding from bigger bodies
- All five contribute across categories
Lineup A could win if they shoot lights out from three (Brooks & Grimes), but over four quarters, Lineup B’s balance, defense, and control of tempo via Shead gives them the edge in a projected matchup.
Final Verdict:
Lineup B wins 68–64 in a close, high-effort game.
Let me know if you want a simulated box score or a “game story”!
Shead - 5
Sharp - 4
Taze -2
Fabian - 3
Francis - 1
This is not the best line up but my God they’d be fun to watch. Insane defensive intensity. Imagine all the Taze and Francis dunks, Sharp deep 3 pointers, Jamal hero games, and that beautiful hook and floater from Fabian
If it was a real game (based o how the looked their last season), Lineup A would win in a blowout
like 15pt+ win
Not a single top scorer on B, almost no spacing… That team would struggle to score on regular teams, let alone a team that had Dejon AND Tugler.
Team A has great spacing, like amazing spacing, and then it has Grimes being able to be a lead scorer for that team. I don’t think Hinton or Walker could shut down Grimes. And if you put Shead on Grimes, Dejon would likely then be picking apart the other four to find open shooters with Armoni, Gorham, or looking for alley-oops with Tugler.
Lineup A is a legitimate cohesive team. Lineup B just has good players, but cohesively as a team just doesn’t make sense. No shooters, no post scores It has great rebounding but even then that’s not gonna be enough to win games
Chatgpt disagrees with you… literally 100%.
Walker could hold Grimes…
lol i know… but how is B scoring on A i real life??? against that defense
and jarace THE forward… against grimes the 18pt scorer… that was closer to 25 towards the end of the season … that led a team to the final 4… jarace who was just an above average defender against bigs??
You’re selling JWalk way short on his defensive skills…