BYU Cougarboard really hates that we're in the XII

If attendance really mattered then universities would be able to schedule games when it was best for their fan base. 11 am on a Saturday on Labor Day weekend is a no brainer. I’m not saying we would have 40 k if it was a 6 pm game, but it would have been better.

My wife and my sons wife stayed home and we both found friends to use the extra ticket.

I am past the point of worrying about what others think about us. Houston is not a traditional college town, it’s the way it is. Our value is defined by our location and media market. We are not going to be kicked out of the Big 12 if Rutgers is still in the Big 10. If we were life would go on

This website gives a breakdown of attendance numbers between 24 and 25. It’s interesting when you look at the numbers Houston improved from 24 to 25. Still not great but trending in the right direction.

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Students are not the problem… they showed up.

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Students are the canary in the coal mine because they didn’t fill up the student allotment which shows that increasing enrollment does not mean more attendance which likely correlates to not increasing future season ticket sales.

Us older generations aren’t being replaced which is a very bad sign for the program.

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UCLA doesn’t have a freshman housing mandate because it doesn’t need one.

Over 98% of their true frosh live on campus without one.

Is it any accident that the nation’s premier urban public research university is mostly residential for freshmen?

Hint: no.

Wouldn’t you rather we be more like UCLA than Cleveland State?

I sure as Hell would. Cleveland State is mostly (and until very recently, almost entirely), commuter.

It’s no accident or coincidence that they lack UCLA’s standing.

Yet strangely, some people here seem to prefer the Cleveland State model for UH.

And what’s one of the keys to being more like UCLA and less like Cleveland State? Hint: Nearly all freshman and more undergrads in general living on campus, totally immersed in their studies and campus life, and not simply picking up a few classes on the way to their waitressing jobs.

Northeastern U. In URBAN Boston went from being a mostly commuter school of low standing in the middle of academic giants to being a mostly residential USNEWS Top 50 school in one generation.

uh could be a public version of the same.

The key to such a transformation would have been a freshman housing mandate.

Too bad stupid Whitmire kept us down.

Not making boneheaded mistakes like moving the engineering school.

That makes us more like Cleveland state than ucla, not a freshman housing mandate.

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Moving the Technokogy school to Sugar Land was indeed a BONEHEADED mistake.

Made upwards of 4000 undergrads into not just commuters, but SUPER COMMUTERS, totally detached from campus life.

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Im getting screwed by that this semester… 125 mile commute on mondays. every time i go to katy and sugar land it just makes me even more pissed off

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This is also an admissions problem. The students that UH is accepting are not your typical “fan” of major sports. Just the truth

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That’s ludicrous to have to commute like that. Add in the networking and job prospecting cost and it becomes even more onerous. My engineering student son got a job at an mbb his freshman year simply because the office was so close to his dorm. Walking distance but UH to downtown where the petroleum companies are is alot closer than Sugarland or Katy.

Yeah, we could require freshmen to live on campus and have the exact kind of transformation that Sam Houston State has seen to their famously thrilling campus life. That’s why they’re on the verge of an AAU invite, and we’re just another Cleveland State. The Berkeley of the Piney Woods, they’re calling it.

Damn that Whitmire.

As an aside, Northeastern very famously got where they are by gaming the USNEWS rankings. The problem is that everyone is doing that now.

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CKS was on tv talking about how good the student section looked, and how much energy they had, prior to the rain starting at the OSU game.

From what I could tell the student section looked full… it’s the rest of the stadium that neehelp.

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I was actually at the game…and the student section was great… full and active. The weather delay and monsoon was a real problem afterwards.

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I will say this again! See the University of Houston student demographics vs. BYU student demographics. It matters a lot.

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Now do University of Houston vs University of Texas, or UCLA, or Georgia Tech.

In baseball, the first month or so of the season, Northern teams just schedule road series or tourneys instead of trying to play in snow in February. Why don’t we try to load our football schedule with northerly road games for the first 2 weeks? Crowds don’t come the first two weeks anyway until they realize football has started, and we could avoid worrying about game times.

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Next year we do the kickoff in Reliant with LSU so that should help. Maybe try to do that more often…neutral site game with P4 to start season.

Keep advocating for the Cleveland State model over the UCLA or Pitt model.

I’ll stump for the opposition.

Neither Pitt nor UCLA requires first-years to live on campus.

Keep pushing for that Sam Houston State model, though.

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Because they don’t have to.

WE HAVE TO until we achieve the same results and change the culture.

It won’t happen without intervention.

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Yeah. It’s worked out great for Sam and SFA. Transformative intervention.