I can’t remember reading a Yormark comment on the big10 proposal.
So as we found out , a new metric will be added which is SOS and it’s bc the sec and Acc will go to 9 games.
I like that all p4 play 9 conf games bc the sec was notorious for playing 3 easy non conf and 1 p4 for yrs.
This will hurt the g5 but they get their 1 bid but you likely don’t see 2 g5s making playoffs even with 5/11.
Seems they will go by polls and SOS.
The big12 is known for parity so how do we think we stack up on SOS?
The more I think of the cfp at 28 teams the more I like it. The opinion that it dilutes the regular season is false since you have to earn your spot and your ranking spot on the field. It makes the regular even more “intense” I actually would like to see 32 teams. 28 teams + four with a bye.
I like this format but done with the following:
Teams that finish top of their league get either a bye (ranked w/p4 top finisher) or get to host their first game (G5’s)
Watching an Oregon State vs an Alabama at the Oregon State campus is exciting. This is like a “trap game/David vs Goliath”
The 7755 home games among the P4’s has to be “ironed out”
There is no way a big10 or sec team with a worst record than a BIG12 or acc team should be hosting. It makes the debates of which power conference is best. It will deliver an even better product.
Some are complaining that this is too much about money. It has always been about money. Why do you think teams want to break the acc media agreement?
Remember friends that most Div I FBS programs are in the red or spend huge amounts of money.
This format allows for two G5’s vs one. Just for that it is important for non power conferences. It makes the non power conferences leagues more competitive if they know two spots are in the balance and you get to host a game. It should also “redistribute” the money more evenly.
Each of these games are in effect bowl games. They are bowl games that… means something. .Whoa what a concept?
How many times have we heard the following:
“I’ll never watch that bowl game”
“They were 486 people in the stadium”
When you have a cfp with 32 teams it does the following.
It reunites a National college football feel. You betcha people will pull for the underdog.
It makes every game meaningful.
It makes all 32 teams earn it on the field.
Every conference game means more than before.
It eliminates a conference championship that in itself dilutes the regular season.
ie: Same conference - why should an undefeated team in the West have to play a one loss team from the East?
Teams conference ranking are about wins and losses, scoring points vs defense etc…
My actual preference and the way it should be done?
11 DIV I FBS football conference champions get into the playoffs with five at large. Can it happen? Ask that to the p2’s and they will come back with: f…off.
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28 guarantees entry of at least the top 3 teams of B12 or ACC. Access is the key. If SEC wants to get 8-9 in there just to lose games, fine. It will kill their narrative over time.
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My understanding was:
P4’s= 7755
Independent= 1
G5’s= 2
1 at large
= 28 teams
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I like the 24 to 28 teams also bc it gives the big12 a lot of chances and us to .
As we know the sec and big will want to have the upper hand and they will get it so I’m thinking we take the best deal which is this so I hope the big pushes back to get this.
With the Sec strength of schedule which is new in the metric , they will still cry and get their share which is at least 4 . Again whatever the sec wants is bad for all. They are banking on Sos to get a 9 and 3 team or even 8 and 4 and say we have to be 10 and 2 vs their 9 and 3 etc.
It is interesting that the big10 came out with this format. Clearly the sec is not board with them…That in itself is good for the BIG12. In this format with a 7755 it shows the big10 might consider the BIG12 as a “bigger” conference than the sec think we are.
With 24, and especially 28, you cover every team that has a credible argument to be included in the CFP. It keeps fan interest in those teams at the bottom of the selection number to keep winning for a chance at the playoffs
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28 with two G5’s makes it a College Football National CFP.
7755121, that would be awesome.
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I don’t think Big Ten threw out the 28 team idea and is all in on it
It was just a thought proposal I believe
I personally don’t think it ever happens. I think we go to 16, especially now that the SEC agreed to 9 games
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I will not understand this push for a 7755 or a 4422 on a Big 12 site. Also do not understand this constant but the B1G and SEC are so much better than the Big 12. That is media hype in action. There are times when the SEC is better, but it is not like comparing the NFL to the FCS difference. It is a few tougher teams at the top and that is about it. By tougher I mean 10% better not 100% better.
Someone explain why a 5555 or a 2222 is bad.
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Also the CFP is changing 2025 to include more of a SOS concept to help the SEC get more teams in. It takes advantage of the perception the SEC is tougher so they will now use that as a metric for who gets in the playoff. It will help a team like Alabama with 3 losses not get left out.
Money. Simple.
It’s not that the SEC or B1G are so much better than the Big 12 or ACC. Though, they historically get better recruits and send more to the NFL than the Big 12 & ACC each year.
That being said → the reason the SEC & B1G get media bias is because both conferences have an established set of core teams that everyone knows will likely make it to the post season:
- SEC: Alabama, Georgia, Texas, LSU, Tennessee, Ole Miss, etc…
- B1G: Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, etc…
- ACC: Clemson, SMU, Miami (eventually FSU)
- Big 12: ???
Any system that would benefit the Big 12 today would not benefit the Big 12 tomorrow.
The Big 12 has to establish itself and a core set of elite programs in order to succeed in a CFP system that currently does not benefit them but will benefit them in the long run.
This is exactly what Yormark wants. He wants teams to step up. He doesn’t want the Big 12 to have indefinite parity.
SEC going to 9 games is actually going to hurt them, because it will result in more top dogs playing other top dogs → more 4 loss teams → less CFP representation that will just go to B1G or ACC/Big 12
The way around this is to invite 2 schools that have lackluster football programs to ease up the schedule (UNC & UVA) which is what I think the SEC will eventually do.
I know why it is happening the way it is. Mostly agree with your description.
None of your answer says why a 5555 or 2222 is bad. Money would not be significantly higher giving 77 or 44 since those conferences would still get the at-large spots most years. Plus 77 or 44 distributes the money more unevenly upfront which is not good.
Yes the 9 game schedule will diminish the SEC some in computer matrices. Instead of adding 16 wins to the conference totals, it is 8 wins and 8 losses.
Its bad because SEC/BIG will never agree. Quit acting Big 12 deserves as many bids as SEC. They dont. SEC/BIG has more viewers, more money and more top 20 caliber teams. 7755 is an excellent solution because i think it makes all the conferences happy. At least it should. Money isnt the issue, its how many teams can you get in the playoffs. With our 16 team Big 12, 5 bids should make us happy.
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I did answer your question lol → Money
Like I said, the SEC and B1G can consistently send a core set of teams to the post-season. The media networks know this. The AP Polling knows this. The CFP Committee knows this.
That’s why it is leverage in their favor.
It’s an “it is what it is” type of assertion.
Until the Big 12 can start sending 3-4 teams consistently every single year, then Big 12 has no bargaining power.
Not acting and will not quit promoting a level playing field. I do believe in fairness and will not agree to be a lesser person, school or conference.
Cower beneath the SEC if that is what you believe is proper.
Your only argument for 7755 is that the Big 12 is not deserving is sad.
Also the B1G is NOT more deserving either.
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As I said in counter - Money for the CFP will not go down if it uses a 5555 over a 7755. The same schools will go as the SEC and B1G will likely get the 4 at-large so same teams.
How does 5555 reduce the amount of money the playoff earns?
You keep talking about core teams. That is a different discussion in why to give autobids based on name recognition. It is does not explain why 5555 is actually bad.
It reduces the amount of money that the SEC & B1G earn.
straightforward. But if the SEC and B1G get the at-large then it doesn’t. Still does not answer my question. It only tries to justify the 7755.
I will reword…
Why is a 5555 or 2222 bad for college football?
I do not care that the 5555 is slightly worse for the SEC or B1G bank accounts as I am not a SEC fan nor on a SEC board