CNBC ranks UH as the #7 public school in the country that "pays off the most"

As far as I can tell, no other Texas public university made the Top 25.

For that matter, the only other Texas school on the list is Rice which finished at #16 on the private school list.

Read on.

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That is just great to see! Thanks for posting Ryan

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I worked full time during my twenties as I put myself through UH. After graduating my earnings doubled immediately and they’ve only gone up in the 10 years since graduating. I attribute it to lower tuition which I could pay for as I went (only a few short term loans paid off during the semester) and great job placement/intern programs.

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My son just graduated in May with an electrical engineering degree, cum laude, Honors College. Had a partial scholarship so I didn’t have to pay sticker price. He got loans in a couple of the semesters. Had offers from two NASA contractors and accepted the higher paying one. Which, happens to be the position he was most interested in. So, the loan repayment is very manageable. No question a UH education is a fantastic value.

Yesterday was his first day on the job and once the pandemic is over he will have an office at JSC. He’s pumped. I feel bad he didn’t get to walk the commencement stage but it doesn’t seem to bother him. Proud of the boy.

BTW, Barstool Coogs doing a little trolling…

https://twitter.com/BarstoolCoogs/status/1288153040277700609

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Big city schools topping the list.

Shows how broken the college system is where people are expected to pay ridiculous amounts for prestige that doesn’t necessarily translate into a better career or income outcome.

There are plenty of schools on the Public side – Montana Tech, anyone? – that I’d be hard-pressed to call a “city school.” And certainly, among private schools, the traditional elites still hold their clout.

Given the schools on the list, I’m more than a little surprised UT-Dallas didn’t make the cut. I guess TI doesn’t pay like they used to.

Didn’t dive enough into it to understand their algorithm, but since our tuition is about the same as UT Austin and Texas A&M I am very surprised not to see them up there along with some other Texas state universities.

I know I got tremendous value from my UH MBA. It propelled my career. Going into management consulting and having to compete against people that had much more prestigious MBAs on their resumes from some of the top 10s, I never saw much difference if any, except they had a much higher debt load they were paying off. I had zero! :joy:

Very nice for UH. This is the kind of recognition the university really needs to throttle up even higher.

My oldest daughter has her sights on a UH MBA in a couple more years after undergrad. She could end up some place else for grad school, but high probability it will be UH. I do know it will be a Texas university after going to undergrad out of state.

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Yep, college tuition is ridiculous especially at the prestigious universities where it is unreal, and the value capture is hard to justify. It really does not need to be anywhere close to what it costs. Terribly inefficient for the cost it takes.

Yeah I got my MBA at UH too. $$, was a big part of the decision. Over $100k from the big name schools is hard to swing unless you are trying to break into a “pay to play” type industry like private equity or something. Most ridiculous thing is paying $100K for a satellite MBA program like UT or A&M in Houston. You don’t ever have to step foot on their campuses aside from orientation, so you are literally buying the brand.

I have mixed feelings TBH about what UH is doing to its undergrad program. When I did my undergrad at UH it was a more affordable option that stood up to the ‘traditional’ schools in terms of academics, with a culture that lacked the entitlement of the ‘traditional’ schools. Plus having the flexibility accommodate ‘working class students’ meant that I could maintain a long-term internship throughout the school year…That was extremely beneficial and something you can’t really do out in college station, and while putting pressure to load up schedules to graduate in 4 years.

I feel like in the drive to ‘catch up’ to the traditional schools, UH has lost sight of what made it unique back in the day. All the new buildings and facilities at UH are nice, but we’ve caught up to everyone else on the curve of ridiculous tuition inflation too.

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That mission has now been taken over by schools of ill repute like The University of Phoenix.

We definitely don’t want to be like them.

As such, we’ll take the opposite path.

You mean they have moved away from part-time and night-time undergrads? Not surprised. I hate to say it, but the part-time and extended durations of degree attainment and lower percentages of degree attainment isn’t inline with the schools strategy and objectives. It can stir the hornet nest on here sometimes when brought up.

When I was a MBA, I started when i had just turned 23 and graduated when I turned 25. All my courses were at night. I thought the class ahead of my first class was graduate level since the students were so much older. I was surprised to see it was an undergrad business class. Where I went to undergrad you were an old man when you turned 22.

One of the nice things about the UH MBA is that it was loaded with professionals with 10 to 15 years of work experience from downtown businesses (corporations) with undergrad experience from all over the country. It was nice to be a 23-25 year old with all that work experience in my classes. Those were the days if you worked downtown or at most places, you had a suit on.

The MBA program today at UH is much more expensive than the undergrad per credit hour. It was cheap as can be when I got my MBA. Of course all State of Texas schools were in those days.

I graduated with my UH MBA in 1991 and my total cost for books, tuition was less than $5,000. My future father in law paid for it so I didn’t have any debt.
I went full time during the day. Most Of those students were fresh out of undergrad. I took a couple of classes at night and I found it to be so much more intense and students were definitely more knowledgeable and experienced compared to my day cohorts. The night students to also appeared to be exhausted. They were also very impressive!

I also did my undergraduate degree at UH. I started college at 29 years of age and worked my way through in under five years. In those days there were always a few mature students like me in my classes and I never felt out of place. The vast majority of those students were working their way through school like I was. I did borrow about $10,000 in school loans but easily paid it off in a couple of years after graduate school.

In order for our school to continue to climb up the college rankings one of the measures is to continually improve our four and six year graduation rates. It’s a bit challenging to achieve that given that we do have a lot of working class students who need more time to graduate. However, on the flip side, that working class element is just one of the many wonderful characteristics that makes me so proud and impressed with our University of Houston! There is so much more drive, strong work ethic and character in those students.

I often tell people how much I appreciate the amazing opportunities the University of Houston provided to me! It changed my life in countless ways and I will be forever grateful. Go COOGS!!

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Yeah I get the schools strategy and what the metrics around graduation rates and what-not mean, but it does take away what made UH undergrads unique.

My experience with the evening MBA program was similar to yours…I was on the younger side but was working full-time when I started the program. All of us were grinding out this MBA while working out full time jobs and the social learning that came from the more seasoned professionals bringing their work experience to the classroom and group work was invaluable.

I just think big city schools like UH are uniquely positioned to blend professional experience with academic experience…but we are trading a lot of that to fit into the mold of traditional schools and losing a bit of our identity.

Renu addressed this a couple of years back by basically saying that the satellite UH campuses will take on the role that UH had traditionally held.

Nah. Value education for working adults is the raison d’etre of community colleges. Flagship research universities really can’t and shouldn’t compete with them in that respect.

UOPX is a fraudulent scam. HCC and San Jac are not.

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That sounds about right. I never took a class during the day for my MBA. I basically went full time over 2 years to complete my 48 hour credit hours while I worked full time. I didn’t have a life for two years because I wanted to get it over. I would take 6 to 9 credit hours per semester in the fall and spring and 6 hours per each summer term. I had an engineering undergrad so I couldn’t exempt out of any classes because of engineering not matching up to business school requirements.

I went about a 1/2 decade ahead of you and my tuition was peanuts. I paid more for books and gas than I did for tution. I can’t remember when the state jacked up tuition, but I believe it was in the late 80s just after I graduated.

My night classes was pretty impressive. Many professionals from downtown based oil companies, I remember some from NASA also. It seemed like most had in the plus 15 range on average of experience. I believe the average age was 33 or 34. I still see that is the average age for their MBA program today.

When was UH EVER like the University of Phoenix? Liar!

Never

Never, of course.

All I’m saying is that schools of that sort have largely taken over that “mission,” and given how disreputable those schools are, we don’t want that to be our “mission” any longer.

If we keep that mission, then everybody on the outside, rightly or wrongly, will associate us with those sorts of schools, and assume, incorrectly, that our school is comparable. That is the VERY LAST thing that any of us want.

I will say that the University of Phoenix has a way nicer football stadium than UH does.

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