Discussion: What is your opinion on Climate Change

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Hmmm
this graph seems contrary to the one @coog51 posted , after 1980. Why ?
Or what am I not understanding here ???

One is looking global and the other at a subset? Idk

I’m not a scientist or climatologist, so I can only go by what the science says.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0270467619886266

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac2966

Tell me you know nothing about tax code without saying you know nothing about tax code. Yes, and there are major benefits for child care expenses that are found nowhere else in the tax code.

You’re absolutely correct, although there are different types of bonus depreciation to accelerate it but those are typically not exclusive to O&G.

Also was done to attract investment to the industry as O&G extraction is expensive.

Not technically correct but I’ll allow it. Lease costs generally are amortized. Whereas some of the other stuff might be separate from lease costs and deductible at the time when it comes to other industries. Kinda varies a bit.

Science evolves as we get more data and new discoveries. It doesn’t stand still, and yes there should be people still studying the man made effects on the climate. There is much we don’t know, and to think that simply controlling CO2 output will allow us to control climate change is niave. As I said before, the moon, the sun, rotation of the earth, etc. so much more goes into what controls our climate. We’ve only been studying it for a tiny bit of time compared to the life of the earth. Some of this could be a natural pattern.

All that said, it doesnt mean we shouldn’t look to be more sustainable and treat our earth better. Just we need to make sure we are looking at it holistically and not just stuck on CO2.

How long have we been documenting the climate vs. how long has the world been in existence. So much we don’t know for sure.

But we need more studies !
/s

11,602 peer-reviewed articles on “climate change” and “global warming” published in the first 7 months of 2019.

In the first 7 months !

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Are you saying we should stop studying it?

100% sure the moon, the sun, or the rotation of the earth is NOT adding CO2 to the atmosphere.

The other natural source of CO2 atmospheric injections would be volcanic activity, and I think it’s
safe to say we have not seen significant increases in volcanism since 1958 that is getting greater
each year.

I’m saying there is a large body of data already out there that shows increase in CO2 since
1958 is directly related to mans discovery and widespread use of fossil fuels and global deforestation activities. Ignoring that and thinking there are other causes of climate change is simply ignoring the elephant in the elevator.

CO2 is the main component in global warming.

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Those who think The Rapture is around the corner, and those who think Man is insufficiently powerful to affect climate simply won’t be interested in the science. Others don’t want to live differently than currently or have their livelihoods affected.

Let’s just agree to screw up the atmosphere less. Good start, no?

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No, they will not agree to that because they will counter with an argument about limbs on
people in Wembley stadium ! And delay action by asking for “more unbiased studies to be done”.
Ignore that glacier dripping away behind your back.

In one video posted on X, opens new tab a commentator says: “Do you know how much CO2 is in the atmosphere? It’s 0.04%. That’s like one limb on one person in Wembley stadium. It’s only just above a record multi-million year low. It’s not a problem. Stop worrying. Stop being scared.”

Being totally oblivious to the capacity of the CO2 molecule to trap IR. It’s like saying add more salt to your food, it’s such a small percent of the total amount of food and beverages you consume, it can’t possibly raise your BP.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/share-co2-atmosphere-not-reflection-its-climate-impact-2024-01-04/#:~:text=The%20concentration%20of%20CO2%20in,2022%2C%20according%20to%20Copernicus%20data.

You really drank the Kool aid. Good luck with your solar EV.

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Coogjazz, I agree with what you’re saying though I lean a bit to man bring insufficient. The science is never really settled, that’s what makes it interesting. I remember my freshman geology field trip to the hill county and we found some shark teeth near Llano. Now that was a climate change. Yes the climate is changing, it always has. Man can effect the micro but not the macro. Best if we did what momma said
 Clean up after yourself!

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That data is misleading RT. If you clear cut a primary growth forest and then replant it with seedlings, your deforestation is net 0. But these replanted forests are not anywhere near the carbon sink that a primary growth forest is. Your primary carbon sinks (other than the ocean) are the rain forests. Those are being drastically reduced.

I don’t think it is at all. I think it shows what’s happening. If nothing else, it provides context you didn’t. And 95% of deforestation happens in the tropics.

Also, your data cuts off 15 years ago. That’s pretty misleading. Everything I’ve seen shows things have slowed down since then.

Anyone who has done two seconds of research knows that the earth has destroyed itself multiple times ( i think 6) without input from a single human.

The habitat regenerates in a different form, and new species replace those forced into extinction
with zero human intervention

Now, with that said, humans in the modern era are working AGAINST nature instead of WITH nature at a record pace.

Just take the Houston metro 100 years ago to today- natural green space has been replaced with concrete and sprawl raising temperatures and accelerating flooding.

And this is just a micro- example

Good watch if you haven’t seen it

I think everyone recognizes the climate has changed before. The pace has never looked like this though as you mentioned.

Even if you assume we are in a natural heating cycle (which I think is reasonable), it would barely be noticeable over the last several decades if we were in a comparable cycle from the past.

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The majority of the present day United States used to be thousands of feet deep of solid ice

Today can’t be as dramatic as that warming

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That didn’t address anything I said.

I think we have changing weather patterns driven by El Nino and El Nina . Superimposed on that is the damage humans have done to our planet plus volcanic eruptions.
We need to take care of Mother Earth.